I have a feeling Florida is going to get hit hard, between a huge elderly population and tourists from all over going there and the fact restaurants and bars are still packing them in, this could spell disaster.
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I have a feeling Florida is going to get hit hard, between a huge elderly population and tourists from all over going there and the fact restaurants and bars are still packing them in, this could spell disaster.
Quoted from MSLONEKER:i had a tour setup at Stern last week. they canceled it because of covid19. Im from louisiana. its not like i get to chicago every week. Ridiculous!!
Yeah, your trip is more important than their desire to protect themselves and their families. Its this kind of selfishness that blows me away.
Quoted from Whysnow:details of this?
"And under regulations revised and reissued just before Trump entered office, the government can stop and seize any plane, train or automobile to stymie the spread of contagious disease. Some even interpret the statute as meaning a president could deploy the military to cordon off a city or state."
I'm hearing through some investor channels that the meeting on this took place last night and some hedge funds are in the know...and making moves accordingly today before it officially drops. My source has about 75% credibility on this kind of news this far. So take it for what it's worth. Wouldn't surprise me at all if they want to get a hold of this before we turn into Italy 2.0. Fauchi also wants it to happen.
Quoted from FYMF:Please correct me?
Do u recall all this over the H1N1 virus. The notion that u cant be to careful is incorrect
Wash your hands, cover your cough all the things u were taught as a kid are good. Shut down the entire economy for a couple of thousand deaths. Thats an over reaction. The H1N1 came from Mexico. They didnt even close that boarder. Stern did allow me to go into the gift shop though, so at least smarter heads prevailed there.
Quoted from CrazyLevi:It’s great to see these states doing this.
Without strong guidance coming from the top states are taking positive action that could help get us out of this sooner.
Verily!
The numbers don't lie, a couple thousand deaths? Try 2-5% of the entire population if they can't get a hold of it. Please educate yourself you might save a life or four
Quoted from rwmech5:The numbers don't lie, a couple thousand deaths? Try 2-5% of the entire population if they can't get a hold of it. Please educate yourself you might save a life or four
If people don’t get it by now, will they ever?
Quoted from albummydavis:Yeah, your trip is more important than their desire to protect themselves and their families. Its this kind of selfishness that blows me away.
not selfishness, just a good dose of skepticism. the 24 hour news cycle are the only people making money right now. That and all the cdc people that just got a gazillion dollars thrown at them to cure something that will be gone in a month.
Quoted from CrazyLevi:If people don’t get it by now, will they ever?
Unfortunately no, and I was a bit skeptical when all this began, hopefully the federal government follows suit with what the states have been doing, I think that is coming this week.
Quoted from MSLONEKER:not selfishness, just a good dose of skepticism. the 24 hour news cycle are the only people making money right now. That and all the cdc people that just got a gazillion dollars thrown at them to cure something that will be gone in a month.
you should educate yourself.
I'm sorry about your trip.
Quoted from Wickerman2:That’s with a .02 mortality rate, covid may come out at 1% or higher. Hope don’t get 60 million cases!
That seems probable. In the UK they're forecasting 80% of people infected over the course of this disease. I think that's probably a realistic estimate.
The big problem with this is that it doesn't present any symptoms for days, and people are highly contagious during that latency period. When symptoms DO present, they can easily be mistaken for the common cold.
Hopefully as time goes on people will become more and more acutely aware of this thing, but there is going to be a lot of people who are too stupid or too ignorant to heed the warnings, who think it won't happen to them, or believe that their rights to do things trump public safety. We had a large 6000+ people half marathon held in my local town over the weekend. It was originally going to be 15,000 people but mainly wisely dropped out and did their own one away from a crowd. The rest basically either did not give a f**k about community transmission because they felt they HAD to run that day, and maybe the organisers stood to lose some profit, who knows. Either way, there are plenty of people around the world who think it's not that big of a deal, and aren't prepared to comply with requests to keep away from crowds.
This is one of those rare times where I sortof envy the Chinese culture of compliance with authority. If any country stands to drastically reduce the exposure it's going to be them.
Quoted from MSLONEKER:Do u recall all this over the H1N1 virus. The notion that u cant be to careful is incorrect
Wash your hands, cover your cough all the things u were taught as a kid are good. Shut down the entire economy for a couple of thousand deaths. Thats an over reaction. The H1N1 came from Mexico. They didnt even close that boarder. Stern did allow me to go into the gift shop though, so at least smarter heads prevailed there.
Coronavirus is twice as contagious and Possibly up to 30 times more deadly than H1N1. You really think NYC would shut down over something that was only as dangerous as the flu? Wake TF up!!!
Quoted from MSLONEKER:not selfishness, just a good dose of skepticism. the 24 hour news cycle are the only people making money right now. That and all the cdc people that just got a gazillion dollars thrown at them to cure something that will be gone in a month.
Someone should frame this post. "Gone in a month", lol.. how do you argue with that logic?
I guess all these states and businesses shutting down are because they hate money or something.
Posted in other thread but this is what flattening the curve looks like. Two Italian cities. One shutdown on feb 28ish. One shutdown March 8ish. This is what localities are attempting to do here before hospitals are overwhelmed. Also, We have less hospital beds per 1000 people than Italy.
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Quoted from LukyDuck:DOW tanked and shut down within 60 seconds. Not good
Down 10%? Ouch.
Peak prosperity had another interesting graph of China's cases, the normal exponential hockey stick and then poof! flatline, no new cases. Seems kinda fishy.
Quoted from Durzel:Someone should frame this post. "Gone in a month", lol.. how do you argue with that logic?
I guess all these states and businesses shutting down are because they hate money or something.
this virus can't tolerate heat or humidity. summer is on the way.
Quoted from MSLONEKER:this virus can't tolerate heat or humidity. summer is on the way.
Incorrect unfortunately
Summer should decrease cases just as it decreases cases of anything because of spacing of people, schools out etc but heat has nothing to do with it
Yeah I’m gonna go about my normal day except I have a generator strapped on my back and a very high capacity hair dryer in my hand at all times.
I’m gonna go bowling!
Quoted from CrazyLevi:...very high capacity hair dryer in my hand at all times. I’m gonna go bowling!
You misspelled "blowing."
Quoted from Honch:Coronavirus is twice as contagious and Possibly up to 30 times more deadly than H1N1. You really think NYC would shut down over something that was only as dangerous as the flu? Wake TF up!!!
They dont have those numbers on this virus yet. We have no idea how many people have it but have not been diagnosed. These people would have gotten better without being counted. So your statistics which you couched with the term "probably" dont influence me. What does, is the cratering of our economy. if i cant work, i cant earn money. if i cant earn money, i cant pay my bills.Thats very real to me.
Quoted from MSLONEKER:not selfishness, just a good dose of skepticism. the 24 hour news cycle are the only people making money right now. That and all the cdc people that just got a gazillion dollars thrown at them to cure something that will be gone in a month.
Sounds to me like you are watching too much Sean Hanity.
Quoted from MSLONEKER:They dont have those numbers on this virus yet. We have no idea how many people have it but have not been diagnosed. These people would have gotten better without being counted. So your statistics which you couched with the term "probably" dont influence me. What does, is the cratering of our economy. if i cant work, i cant earn money. if i cant earn money, i cant pay my bills.Thats very real to me.
Tough Titty dude.
I’d much rather take chances with our economy than with public health. That’s what this is all about.
Quoted from cottonm4:Sounds to me like you are watching too much Sean Hanity.
People are gonna find that garbage harder to give up than going out to eat.
Presidential press conference at 3:30 again today in an effort to boost the market at the last minute. We may see some Stafford act action.
Quoted from greenhornet:what about tim arnold and the PHOF ?
I have seen nothing about him shutting down and there is nothing on his website.
Quoted from JodyG:Presidential press conference at 3:30 again today in an effort to boost the market at the last minute. We may see some Stafford act action.
Can’t wait.
Quoted from JodyG:Presidential press conference at 3:30
Can we have one with JUST that Fauci guy? The rest of them have questionable credibility.
Quoted from JodyG:Presidential press conference at 3:30 again today in an effort to boost the market at the last minute. We may see some Stafford act action.
Hoping against a full fledged quarantine. Maybe a curfew or something.
Quoted from SilverballSleuth:Hoping against a full fledged quarantine. Maybe a curfew or something.
My hunch is we are getting the full enchalada in the next two days. A LOT more people have it than the number show, because we are prioritizing testing the sick and elderly first.
Quoted from henrydwh:I have seen nothing about him shutting down and there is nothing on his website.
Do you really think they would announce that they are going to announce it?
Quoted from SilverballSleuth:Hoping against a full fledged quarantine. Maybe a curfew or something.
No quarantine
It will be an announcement of another half measure that should have happened 4 weeks ago followed by contradictory statements and tweets creating further confusion and clarification announcements.
Thank you State governors.
If people keep ignoring the recommendations, then we could end up like Italy. What some people do not understand is that by ignoring the recommendations, you are in essence asking to be placed in a curfew or quarantine. You are making things worse, not better. If you have ever been in the military or on a team, then you should understand this concept.
Keep doing what you want. If things get worse, then you only have yourself to blame when they start shutting down businesses, put curfews in place and then government forced quarantines. You are the one who is putting your friends and neighbors out of work.
Why not just be a part of a team instead of bucking the recommendations. How hard is it for you to stay away from other people for a few days? SMH
Quoted from MSLONEKER:They dont have those numbers on this virus yet. We have no idea how many people have it but have not been diagnosed. These people would have gotten better without being counted. So your statistics which you couched with the term "probably" dont influence me. What does, is the cratering of our economy. if i cant work, i cant earn money. if i cant earn money, i cant pay my bills.Thats very real to me.
Guess what else you can't do? Pay bills when you're dead! We're all going to pay some sort of price for this nightmare till it's over, but Health>Wealth. Get with the program and quit listening to Fox "news".
1st paragraph:
Research from a laboratory-grown copy of the coronavirus (SARS-CoV-2) that causes the COVID-19 illness shows that heat affects the virus and impacts its behavior, a top pathologist said new research has shown. But other infectious disease experts aren't yet convinced.
And:
Nicholls and colleagues from a team at Sun Yat-sen University in Guangzhou, China, previously produced a study, which was published in February and has yet to be peer-reviewed, noting the effect of heat.
Let’s not celebrate just yet...
Quoted from chad:Copper helps to. Viruses no like that stuff.
When I was a kid growing up, there used to be these old men that wore a copper ring bracelet because the copper was supposed to chase arthritis away. I imagine those old farts got their information from the same book of fantasies you must be thinking about.
Quoted from cottonm4:When I was a kid growing up, there used to be these old men that wore a copper ring bracelet because the copper was supposed to chase arthritis away. I imagine those old farts got their information from the same book of fantasies you must be thinking about.
Silver is better! Copper is so 90’s.
"Most airlines could be bankrupt by May. Governments will have to help"
https://www.cnn.com/2020/03/16/business/airlines-bailouts/index.html
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So, last go around, the banks got bailed out, but it was their own fault.
The airlines are getting hammered through no fault of their own. Bail them out? Or not? It will be expensive, but letting the airlines go bankrupt Chapter 7 style is probably not wise, even though it can be considered a socialist measure.
Watching the markets take on water is just as exciting as it was watching Election 2000 with all of the hanging chads and pregnant chads. Riveting.
Quoted from Wickerman2:1st paragraph:
Research from a laboratory-grown copy of the coronavirus (SARS-CoV-2) that causes the COVID-19 illness shows that heat affects the virus and impacts its behavior, a top pathologist said new research has shown. But other infectious disease experts aren't yet convinced.
And:
Nicholls and colleagues from a team at Sun Yat-sen University in Guangzhou, China, previously produced a study, which was published in February and has yet to be peer-reviewed, noting the effect of heat.
Let’s not celebrate just yet...
Fingers crossed on this one. Springtime temps are definitely early this year. I usually don't have to mow until about mid April and it looks like my lawn is already overdue.
Quoted from cottonm4:"Most airlines could be bankrupt by May. Governments will have to help"
https://www.cnn.com/2020/03/16/business/airlines-bailouts/index.html
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So, last go around, the banks got bailed out, but it was their own fault.
The airlines are getting hammered through no fault of their own. Bail them out? Or not? It will be expensive, but letting the airlines go bankrupt Chapter 7 style is probably not wise, even though it can be considered a socialist measure.
I am curious to what term the government ends up calling it. They hate using bail-out now.
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