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TWDLE and GBLE are my two favorite pins of all time! GB will be another masterpiece if they finish off the code.
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Quoted from CrazyLevi:But admittedly a beat up Stern Stars might not look as impressive in a finished suburban basement as a brand new GBLE. It's about 20X more fun to play though.
You and RD both need to put the crack pipe down. I don't know WTF you guys are thinking. Just because you/we can pick up some POS beaters and have fun all day long doesn't mean it even compares to a GB. 
I can have fun rolling steel pinballs down the hill outside of my house trying to hit shit plinko style, with an iced down case of beer, that doesn't make it "pinball better".
Stars? 
GB kicks ass Who Dey Op, who dat?
Quoted from CrazyLevi:RD is right...there are literally hundreds of games that are better pinball games. I own 15 right now and each one of my games is better.
The only one in that group that I'd agree with is NBAFB. But it ain't even close to GBLE all things considered. 
Whatever floats your boat.
Some people like old ladies with dentures and no teeth. Gummies.
Some of my favorite times were with my old Intellivision game back in the early 80's. Baseball was awesome!
Coughlins' law "bury the dead, all they do is stink up the joint". What movie?
Quoted from rotordave:A bottle of Jack, two dozen Modelos, and a pin with 30 second ball times = PARTY TIME!!!
rd
As long as i don't end up crashing through the screen door! Sounds awesome.
Old school with buddies is a great thing.
I guess you can throw beer cans and bottles and not worry about breaking shit up right?
Odiner might care, disappointed that nimblenuts ain't around much.
Quoted from rotordave:See, with the $7000 left over from buying a mint Stars instead of GBLE, you can repair the screen door 100s of times!!
I f ing love it RD!!
Quoted from Aurich:I feel like Odin's collection should be seen as a pilgrimage. Come on out Ice, we'll get shit faced and talk about old bullshit that just seems funny now. Also, I just want to say, who was right about Jplop after all that shit you gave me? Come drink with us and tell me how I was right!
Now that is what I'm talking about!. Jpop was a bad chapter in my life. I'll drink, laugh, and have a lot of fun with you Cali M f'ers.
At the end of the day, Pinball is about having fun with friends, and running through and tearing up Odin's screen door!
I will make the trek out there in the near future.
The Odin Mecca, a bucket list kind of thing.
I have zero lane hops.
The sdtm drains from the left side of the pops is a bit aggravating, but you learn to nudge it and minimize those.
Sit down for a few hours on it and explore. It's great fun and addictive.
If Dwight fixes the scoring imbalance and beefs up the code like Lyman did with TWD it will be right up there if not better than TWD and Acdc for me
Quoted from Who-Dey:I really wish I would have thought this topic out a little more. If I did, I would have said "Do you think Ghostbusters could possibly be a top 10 Pin of all time?"
Better question for sure.
The potential for greatness is there.
It's already a blast to play and that's all that matters.
The "pinball elites" will never like anything newer than 1980 Sucks for them.
You guys are cracking me up!
I agree, pins set up poorly on location don't make for a good experience
I guess if I lived up north I could use my GBLE for firewood this winter
You guys can knock yourselves out having fun hammering GB, while you are doing that I'll be having a blast playing my LE!
After beating LMS again yesterday on TWD, GB provides a great challenge to work through
Some funny reviews but you aren't playing the same pin I'm playing. Just saying 
The skill shot is great. Hard plunge to left flipper and shot on fly to ecto to start mode
Saucer ejects never go sdtm because the coil power is set properly.
Who got the dog. Start with skill shot. Dead flipper bounce from lock to right flipper. Easy ramp shot. Then left loop on return. 4 shots and onto next mode/ladder.
Learn how to play it top 100 guys Quit whining
What else would you like to know?
Jar, the premiums will have to get out there in mass, like TWD, before people start to figure out what guys like you, me and Art already know!
Having to tweak a pin out of the box, imagine that.
People will say the next code update "saved this pin". No, it's already really really good, despite needing some work
Quoted from Kiwipinhead:When top players are complaining, I know its a great pin
Isn't that the truth, if it's not cookie cutter left ramp, right ramp, spinner, they don't know what to do with it
Kind of like movie critics, if they like it you know it sucks!
Quoted from CrazyLevi:The location excuse is ridiculous.
Our ghostbuster pro is set up FINE. It's level. Tilt is fair. Slimer actually works. And we have access to keys to fix or adjust issues.
Game still sucks bro.
The "top 100 player" burn is also stupid. Just because we don't like it doesn't meant we suck at it. You can dislike a game while sill figuring out a way to muddle through it - sometimes that's what tournament play is all about.
Or I guess I just made this myself?But enough about ghostbusters...I thought we were discussing Stars?
Sorry bro. Stars sucks and you don't know what you are talking about.
Location pinball makes a big difference, it's not an excuse. Some good, many are terrible
And the pro sucks and is a totally different game
Quoted from trunchbull:Unfortunately, the rest of us are tasked with putting in a dollar to press the start button on a game that is probably not tuned in, and is therefore borderline unplayable.
I've played a couple of TWD pins on location that were borderline unplayable. That pin really has to be tuned in just right
Same goes for GB
Quoted from Aurich:There's a big jump down to "sucks", what's so bad about the Pro that is totally changed on the Prem?
I only said that because Levi has one on location and most of the people here are trying to compare it to the premium/le. A dumb statement on my part, kind of like the paparazzi coming out of the woodworks to knock GB with all of the ridiculous hyperbole. "It's a shit game that doesn't belong in the top 200"
There's a long laundry list in the "Real GB thread" of differences. It doesn't really "suck" some differences include ecto goggles, slimer mech, magna slings, lighting and the right ramp makes the pin play totally different. The pro is fun too, just giving Levi crap.
The premium/le is an excellent pin right now, a blast to play, that could end up being great if Dwight comes through.
It's a great theme, unique and fun layout, and Stern's best art package, sound and lighting so far.
Premium's are coming out soon and hopefully a code update.
Quoted from clg:Yes! It is always the shiny new toy that gets peoples attention and the need to justify the cash spent on the shiny new toy. Have off the posts here are people trying to rationalise spending thousands on toys.
The other 1/2 are just haters that have nothing better to do than rain down a shit storm on somebody else's excitement.
We know what we have, and "Haters are gonna hate".
Quoted from xTheBlackKnightx:If that is the definition a shitstorm, I welcome it.
You aren't suggesting any pin will ever crack 20k again are you? 10k?. How much was the TAF out the door?
Ghostbusters will eventually be one of Stern's top sellers, to be followed by Star Wars of course. 
Young and old love this theme.
Quoted from CaptainNeo:Need at least a 5 year run, to see if it holds up over time to even have a chance to compete with the tried and true games.
I agree with that Neo. I think it will hold up great over time. It's kick ass fun.
No such thing as "the best ever", unless you are talking about Michael Jordan
TWDLE and GBLE are never leaving for me. Everything else is subject to ejection (except NBAFB)
If sales are any indication, GB will go down as one of Stern's top sellers imo, especially as these premiums start to hit the streets and people figure it out.
Quoted from CrazyLevi:I'm not bad at it. I got a billion on a pro yesterday.
I've played 100s of games of ghostbusters. I'm practically an expert
Why keep playing it if you don't like it? Thats "crazy".
The premium/LE is a blast to play. Best lighting, sound and art of any Stern. Code will get there, good right now.
Quoted from rotordave:GOT is so far superior to GB, it isn't even in the same sphere.
Not even close. GOT layout is awful, one of Ritchie's worst imho. Forget the artwork.
But it's your money, to each his own!
Quoted from Concretehardt:RD has XMen LE listed as a 9.9 it is his highest rated pin.
RD, No wonder.
Polar opposite tastes. I dislike that pin as well. Borg's worst effort by far imho. That was my biggest fear when TWD was coming out. Did Borg "Wolvie the Wellwalker"?
Answer no, he made it great and fixed his prior mistake.
After about 500 plays on it so far, would have been more but in Vegas over the weekend, GB is def becoming a favorite pin of mine and will end up being one of "Stern's best" when Dwight finishes/polishes the code. And no, just like TWDLE, I have loved it from day one and has ZERO to do with the so called "honeymoon phase". I think i can figure out what i like and don't like.
For those of you waiting for a premium or an LE like Concrete you won't be disappointed. On the plus side, you guys should have had all the play field issues ironed out. My PF has not experienced some of the stuff others have. I'm extremely happy!
What's great about it?
It's the most "fun" I've had playing a pinball machine. Light show, sound and art are second to none and mix in an iconic theme and its just an awesome time.
As for the "code", anybody that has played a few games on it and hasn't been able to progress through the "ladders", don't get discouraged, its what makes you want to keep pushing play. There are multiple ways to play this pin and all of them are a blast.
Tobin saucer is very cool, plenty of bugs in that drop down menu though. That part of the game needs to be better integrated overall.
Negative reinforcement is a lot of fun. Didn't think I'd like it at first but I love trying to remember patterns and beat my high score on it.
Slimer is a great bash toy and very well integrated. I had LotrLE and Balrog and this is MUCH better.
Ecto Goggles, very cool and unique, easy shot which makes up for the flipper gap which is mostly a non issue.
The Subway ramp and lock is one of the coolest and most fun shots for me on any pin that I have ever played.
And the Magna slings, WOW, get them set up right, switch sensitivity and it's beyond COOL and FUN.
The hard plunge skill shot is my favorite of any pin.
The captive Newton balls need code work along with PKE frenzy and the target bank.
If you like different and unique, you guys that have one coming will absolutely love this pin!
Back from Vegas, I'm getting back into GB mode!
Quoted from Chambahz:From what I've seen so far, it's just way too tough a game to be a top title, loved by the masses.
Very good point.
Quoted from rotordave:Yes and no. For me the thrill comes not in getting a pin, it is learning it and (hopefully) beating it. Learning to play TWD and beating HORDE and TERMINUS is up there with the greatest buzz I've had in pinball.
Getting through Iron Throne on GOTpro was almost as cool. But TWD was better cause my machine is nasty as all hell.
Dang RD, we agree on this one.
You know i love my TWDLE as my favorite pin for those same reasons, like you. GBLE is right up there and more overall "fun".
The code/layout/lighting/art is really a lot of fun to play now, but Dwight needs to bring the code to another level to make it a great one, like it could be, scoring is just too unbalanced and so many features aren't fleshed out and/or integrated with the game yet.
It will be a very disappointing outcome for me if they don't make this a rules masterpiece like the others. They will though, GB will be the biggest seller Stern has seen in a long time!
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