The only down the center exit I have is pops left. Nothing else feeds the middle. And that I can control with a good nudge. Uses a tilt warning, but I can save.

I will admit there is an addicting factor, even tho it pisses the fuck out of me - but I am a huge fan of the movie, so I want to keep playing to see if I can get thru more modes to relive my favorite bits from the film.

No code is gonna fix all that shit.

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Yes it is the best,but be sure though there is enough space where your machine sits,take the plumb bob out so you can nudge the machine 4 inches to the left and right.
If you don't,experiences with gb may vary...

Great game, amazing actually when tuned correctly.

Best game ever?, common...

No way best Stern. Maybe a top 10 Stern, not top a top 5. Metallica, ACDC, Tron, TSPP, LOTR, Walking Dead are all better IMHO. GB has great art though.

no, LOTR owns that title. TSPP is up there as well. They have the time in, to now be considered some of the best. GB has a lot of years yet before it can be even considered.

3 of clg's top 5 I would not place as such.

I bet it's easily in YOUR top 5. Mine too probably.

As far as Stern goes,it just might be their best pin since 2000!

Let's not forget Striker Extreme was their 1st game back in 2000!
since their 2nd revival!!

It's just too new. It has new pussay syndrome right now. It's like when you first start dating. Everything is awesome the first 1-6 months. Then things start being noticed. Hence why it takes 5 years before a game has put in it's dues to be deemed anything.

Almost.....If you need 5 years to figure out if you have a top 10 Cat, your in trouble!

Another 50 games, and its been enjoyed as much as my other keepers!

Not without issues....what pet isnt?

Top 20...easy
Top 10, Code and issue fixes and time.

Better then that? No idea....But having a blast and excited that Premiums will start getting homes soon!!

Best pin ever ?
No because we always want something better ...
Change title to maybe best stern ..
maybe to early to say..

I don't ever think that MM will ever lose its top spot in the near future ...

A Stern machine the best pin ever? Bruhahahahaha...

It's a decent pin but not enough satisfying shots. The right ramp shot (on pro) is just lame. Too many shots to the bumpers. It does look good. Although I find the playfield artwork a bit too washed out looking. Overall it's a very good pin...I'd say top 20 max.

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NO goddammit...give up this stupid fantasy already. Ghostbusters won't even be the best pin released this year.

Games that are clearly better than GB and always will be:

Tron, Metallica, walking dead, kiss, Star Trek, tspp, Lotr, AC/DC...oh, and stars and about every stern made between 1978-1981

get the picture?

This thread, however, does have a shot at top 5 stupidest ever "once all is said and done", so at least you got that goin for ya.

No not close

When I read this thread title I assumed it existed only to troll Crazy Levi, and as such it has been a monumental success.

While the backlash is entertaining reading, it has stirred up my GB fanboyism and I feel compelled to offer a defense.

If you consider GB on the basis of theme, art, and music/sound(all very important to me), a top 10 ranking is reasonable.
If you like unique layouts and playfield features, GBLE ranks right up there as well.
Unfortunately some of the design issues make for a very frustrating gameplay experience which is not helped by the way the rules/scoring is implemented.

Still, if the tilt is set liberally and you can move the machine, GB becomes a white-knuckle, hyper-vigilant thrill ride that is exhilarating, in contrast to the comparatively soporific experience of some other titles(I'm looking at you, TH).

You love slamming KISS! I agree with your comments on the disk/magnet features, but KISS shoots great. Not a "lost cause" and not for people who "don't know any better". The layout and geometry of KISS blows GB away and those can't be fixed! GB is the lost cause...

Do I wish KISS had more exciting rules/dots? Sure. Is it my favorite rock and roll pin? No.

*Yawn*

Wait, we are doing one of these threads again? New game, hype, unfinished code, no one bothered to play it out for a couple years before passing judgement?

Wake me up in 3 years and then we can talk. Until then expect it to start high in the rankings and slowly fall back down. If code updates the code it will go up in ranking, but you never know how much until a few years after they quit.

There is absolutely nothing exciting about KISS' layout. It's the most bland, unchallenging, uninspired layout we've seen in at least a decade. The only risk was the head, and that's a flop.

Hah, no - but mods and community ideas will. Avatar had a shitty STDM from the pops, Stern provided a spring that was supposed to fix it - but it didn't. I repositioned the spring to another post, and then the pops exit was perfect.

I already gave you an example of 7 "perfect" Stern games. Others will add their favorites on top of that. So, there se at least 10 Stern games (or more) that are better than GB - games that have a perfect marriage of design and code.

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Right now, it's a top 5 Stern for me. In no order...

AC/DC, Spider-Man, GBLE, Iron Man, and depending on my mood for the day, take your pick from LOTR, TSPP, or Tron.

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But it "shoots great!"

When did people start saying this about pins? It reeks strangely of Kaneda.

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Ah the old "but you keep responding!" gambit.

So...what you are telling me, is that you made a post, and I responded, and continue to make more posts, to which I continue to respond to.

Huh...as if that isn't the complete and total point of this place. Well, you win, I guess!

OK lath one. Let's get back to important stuff like Sammy Hagar...
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This is what I'm saying though...you're a mega Kiss fan, so the theme goes a long way and you'll enjoy the game despite its flaws, more so than I would. I'm a mega Ghostbusters fan, so I'm more likely to enjoy the game despite its flaws than you'd be. But c'mon, as mega fans of the licenses - we want these games to be much better!

Really? You never heard that term? You know instinctively when a game "feels" good...when the shots feel smooth and satisfying when you hit them. I will give Kiss that, at least...as much as I think it's a rushed game with shit toys, the ramps and orbit shots feel smooth and nice when you hit them. That being said, who cares - plenty of games shoot great, but are also a great package all around.

Before I started hanging around here, I've absolutely never heard the term or people talking about how a game "shoots."

It's a pinside invention, it's a newbie invention.

The term seems reliant on a player's skill. If a player is really accurate, everything will shoot good.

No matter the skill, The Avengers is always a poor shooter. Clunky.

I understand that, but does it have to be a "best" ever pin to be a good decision. Only one game can be a best ever. You don't have to have a best ever to enjoy it. Just has to be good. TZ is a best ever for me. To me, it's almost a perfectly designed game. But do I need a TZ to enjoy other great games? No. In fact there are around 50 games I would like to have room for someday. Variety is the key to enjoyment.... with many things

Such a thrilling immersive game! It's everything, the entire package together is extra special. Hard to put a finger on one thing, but together it all seems pretty cutting edge. Can't stop playing this one...a true work of art. When you do hit several ramps or combos in a row, there's a laser beam focus that hits, like the zone, because there is so much going on, so many fun distractions to navigate through. Truly entertaining, definitely going to be a keeper for me. Well done, Stern.

I've been hearing I was a newb 10 years ago - usually it's a way to compliment the layout about a game before you complain about it. Example - "T3 shoots great, but it's too easy and the sound is terrible."

So, we are at least in agreement that it's an essentially meaningless barometer of how good a game is, kind of like an argument in an ad about whether or not a beer's best qualities are that it "tastes great" or is "less filling."

LOL @ "shoots great." What in the everloving Hell is that supposed to mean?

I just told you! Lol

It's a comment about the physical nature of the game, regardless of the whole package in context.

Shoots great!

Better Flowing!

Shoots great!

Better Flowing!

...but the toys suck or the code sucks or....it usually comes with a "but".

"Hey man, wanna shoot some pinball ?" just sounds more manly than "Hey Chazz, wanna play some pinball ?"
It's one of those subconscious masculine re-enforcers that makes us feel all lumberjack. Just my 3 cent.