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Could a transistor test as good, but fail under load?

By Gornkleschnitzer

5 years ago



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#1 5 years ago

So, the saga of the Rollergames magnet. My lovely tech tale.

Symptom: Magnet is locked on.
Parts replaced: Magnet (it was crispy) and driver board under playfield.
Maintenance: CPU was thoroughly inspected for dirt or other shorts. Q78 and Q79 tested as good according to my meter.
Experiments:
-Disconnected 1J19 on the CPU board, which disables special solenoids. Ran a wire directly from the high power driver board to Q79 tab. Magnet still locked on, confirming the problem is not in the wiring between CPU and magnet.
-Touched the wire to Q77 (lower jet bumper) instead. Magnet did not lock on.
-Hooked up a light bulb through the disconnected CPU driver. Ran the coil test and left it on Deep Freeze Magnet. Bulb pulsed on and off exactly as the magnet should. Bulb did not lock on.

So my only logical explanation is that Q79 and/or Q77 -tests- as good, and is capable of driving a low current LED, but as soon as you hook it up to the 50V magnet, it loses all confidence and locks on. Is this possible, or are there any better ideas than replacing a seemingly good driver+predriver transistor?

#5 5 years ago

Interesting, so not unheard of then. However, the transistor giving the problem looks to be a stock original on my System 11C board, and has apparently worked fine up until recently. Could age or past abuse cause it to behave like that?

Either way, I might still replace it with a TIP102 to see if it improves the situation. I'll do it tomorrow morning in case there are any more ideas in the meantime.

#7 5 years ago
Quoted from Turtle:

What could have happened is the transistor overheated from being locked on by the magnet. The overheating caused the reverse breakdown leakage to increase. Notes on leakage, more than likely your DMM doesn't source enough current during measurements to detect the leakage. Finally, the leakage will increase with voltage. Anyhow, I would just replace it.

Wow, so my suspicions might indeed be true. Thanks! I'll let you all know how it goes.

#8 5 years ago

"DON'T FLIP!!"

Well, thanks guys! Replacing the "good" driver and pre-driver finally fixed my problem, and now the magnet works good as new.

TL;DR for future readers: The answer to this thread's question is YES. It is possible.

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