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Convince me why I should get into EM's

By dudah

8 years ago


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    #18 8 years ago
    Quoted from dudah:

    Backstory: I was born in 1985, which makes me 30 as of today. I remember pinball and classic arcades from being a kid. My parents never let me have a Nintendo growing up, so I never really got into video games. I got into pinball about 4 years ago, collecting shortly thereafter. I loved the physical aspect of the game. Being an electrical engineer with some borderline OCD tendencies, I quickly fell in love with cleaning/fixing/restoring/modding games. Arguably more than playing them
    Having bought and sold a few games, and kept on to some favorites; these days I seek modern SS games with deep rulesets and beautiful artwork. RBION is the latest addition, my profile will reflect the rest.
    I see tons of EM's on craigslist. I know even more are out there rotting in some guy's garage.
    From my perspective EM guys seem to be a whole and mostly separate part of the pinball community.
    I have a deep respect for the history of pinball and how we got here today.
    The artwork and electrical design is a snapshot of Americana long gone, which I get.
    But as for the gameplay - I just don't get it.
    I assume for older guys that enjoyed these games when they were young, it's a lot of nostalgia.
    From my point of view, they're heavy, slow and difficult to fix dinosaurs.
    On top of that, there are SO MANY titles, with very similar layouts, how does one determine what's a "good" game?
    I've only played a couple of EM's at expo/MGC and quickly grew bored and moved onto something else.
    So please tell me what I'm missing.

    As Clay said, playing them at shows doesn't mean much. It depends on the upkeep/restoration level of the game. Playing a properly maintained game, you'll find it's not necessarily slow. Are they slower than DMDs? Pretty much, but there's still plenty of games that have plenty of speed to them, and they are more challenging than you might think they are.

    But in the end, if you need convincing, you don't get it, and you probably never will.

    #37 8 years ago
    Quoted from Colsond3:

    That is a nice friggin example of that game...looks fantastic!

    His wife, for some reason, doesn't like circles. Because the game is missing them in the repaint. But other than that, it looks great.

    #38 8 years ago
    Quoted from markmon:

    You're not missing anything and pretty much nailed it. In about 2-3 minutes you probably saw what there is to see on every EM. Those were the best they could do with the technology of the time. We have far surpassed that garbage which is why those types of games aren't made today.

    Nice that other people recognized the utter douchebaggery in this post.

    Another reason to like them. The game is the game. It's done. There's no constant, whining "when will they complete the code" posts on here about EM games.

    #57 8 years ago
    Quoted from Jimmyd044:

    Instead of trying a EM pin why don't you give an early SS pin a try. I would recomment a Gottlieb system 1 (Countdown, Joker Poker).

    Those games are really pretty much a hybrid SS/EM. They have elements of both in them. Some of the System 1 games are pretty good players, once you get the board issues they seemingly all have corrected.
    That said, System 1 games just pale in comparison to the Bally/Williams SS games of that era. The System 1 games come off as crude and unsophisticated in comparison. Gottlieb just was late to the SS party, for a variety of reasons, and then stumbled badly when they finally did get going on them, and they never caught up.

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