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Converting Xenon Tube Lamps to LEDs - Vids Guide

By vid1900

9 years ago


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#1 9 years ago

I found these old pics from my ancient Geocities page - so they return again.....:

Xenon is a really fun game that has a clear "Tube Shot" that is lit by little 6v bulbs.

Because these bulbs have hair thin leads, they are always broken or just burned out.

A few years ago I was repairing a Xenon that had 1/2 the bulbs out and did not have any of those tiny bulbs in my box; but I did have plenty of LEDs. I figured that the LEDs would probably never burn out, and could be a cool blue color to match the blue pop bumpers.

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#2 9 years ago

Often it is helpful to refer to a schematic before making any modifications.

Looking at the Schematic, we can see that there are 10 bulbs, in 5 pairs, all driven by a single common buss line.

So at any one time we have 2 bulbs lit up.

The bulbs are in 5 circuits parallel to each other.

The circuit is powered by 6 volts, but my Blue LEDs want 3.3V, so we need a current limiting resistor.

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#3 9 years ago

So we will need to cut the buss line.

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#4 9 years ago

And install our current limiting resistor.

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#5 9 years ago

Now that we have our circuit mapped out, we can start modifying the actual board.

First, remove all the old bulbs, then install the LEDs.

Leave enough LED leg above the circuit board so you can bend the LEDs sideways after installation.

LEDs have polarity, so the flat side of the LEDs will all need to face the 7 pin connector (if you can't see the flat side of the LED, it's the shorter of the two legs).

Here we cut the buss line trace with a razor knife:

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#6 9 years ago

Solder one leg of the resistor to pin 5 of the seven pin connector.

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#7 9 years ago

Here we complete the circuit trace we cut with the other end of the resistor.

For safety, we cover the resistor with heat shrink tubing to prevent a short circuit should an air ball crash into it.

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#8 9 years ago

Here we test our LED populated board before screwing it all back together.

Because LEDs have much more light emitting from the top than the sides, remember to bend the LED bodies so the tops are facing the tube itself for maximum effect.

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#9 9 years ago

So that's it.

With less than 5 minutes work and .51 cents in parts, you have hopefully replaced the last tube bulbs in your Xenon ever, and you have dressed it up with a cool color.

Remember, you don't have to use blue LEDs, Red would also be a great color choice to compliment a Xenon.

Also if you ever wanted it back to stock, just snip out the resistor, solder over the cut trace and reinstall your bulbs.

#10 9 years ago

Wow, you make it look so easy. You are Awesome for posting these kinds of things.

#11 9 years ago

I got a couple of emails asking what resistor I used.

It looks like I used 82 ohms for that job, but that does not mean your LEDs will use the same resistor.

Different color or brightness LEDs need different resistors.

#12 9 years ago

And since a lot of you guys want a turnkey solution and not a lot of electrical theory, we will use this as a "just make it" example.

This blue LED:

http://www.taydaelectronics.com/leds/round-leds/5mm-leds/blue/led-5mm-blue-water-clear-ultra-bright.html

Will need this Resistor:

http://www.taydaelectronics.com/resistors/1-4w-carbon-film-resistors/10-x-resistor-82-ohm-1-4w-5-carbon-film-pkg-of-10.html

#13 9 years ago

http://www.quickar.com/noqbestledcalc.htm

This calculator will let you plug in the specs for any LED (for those who don't like math).

#15 9 years ago

Which way is the flat side of the LED's facing?

#16 9 years ago

Flat side ( AKA the Cathode, negative, or short lead) needs to face the 7 pin connector.

#17 9 years ago

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(sorry I was not more clear about this before.....old pics and old descriptions...that's my excuse )

#18 9 years ago

Excellent write up!

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#19 9 years ago

Nice modification, and if the pcb strip is lost you can build your own lightstrip with this plastic wire gutter...IMG_1546.JPGIMG_1546.JPGIMG_1548.JPGIMG_1548.JPGIMG_1561-277.JPGIMG_1561-277.JPG

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#20 9 years ago

That is a really cool write up. Just was wondering how do do it from scratch if you don't have the factory board like my self. How is it wired?

#21 9 years ago
Quoted from clodbusterguy2:

Just was wondering how do do it from scratch if you don't have the factory board like my self. How is it wired?

Get a piece of "surface wiring trak" from the hardware store and make something like thierryv excellent example above.

Then follow the yellow schematic above and wire it by hand.

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#22 9 years ago

How about converting the whole game with LED's I'm hearing conflicting stories that you get ghosting, flickering and should not be done. What is the best way to convert Xenon into a full LED conversion?

As always I love your posts vid

#23 9 years ago

There are a couple of very easy solutions to use LEDs in Classic Bally:

https://pinside.com/pinball/forum/topic/classic-ballystern-led-adapter-kit-review

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#24 3 years ago

This is a superb write up! Thanks for doing this

#25 3 years ago

Still need to do this some day.

#26 3 years ago

Did mine a few months ago, awesome mod.

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#27 3 years ago

Thanks for the info here from Vid1900. If you don't have a light strip or don't want to do the work. We just open a Biz here on Pinside and we have new light strips. Two versions available. One is just like the original version with 10 LEDs in Red, White or Blue. The 2nd version is a 15 LED strip that lights every 5th LED and they chase across the strip (super cool). Those also can be in Red, White or Blue. Here are some YouTube videos showing each. We are listed on Pinside under B & K Mods or look under Xenon parts.

Or you can go here: https://pinside.com/pinball/market/shops/1261-b-amp-k-mods

The 10 LED in Blue:

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The 10 LED in White:

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