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Converting a bally -17 to -35 MPU with FO597 service bulletin?

By ForceFlow

8 years ago


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    #10 4 years ago
    Quoted from barakandl:

    Following that modification outlined in the FO597 will not let you use 2732 or 2716 at U2 and U6. One of the address lines doesn't have a trace from the cpu for 2732 and I don't think they place all the 'E' pads to pull off a 2716 MOD. This would just be for trying to reuse the original masked ROMs which i wouldn't recommend. The legs on them are usually pretty roached out.
    You are better off doing the mod outlined on pinwiki for setting a -17 to use 2732 at u2 and u6. Doing that maximizes the ROM space for max compatibility of -17 and -35 games.
    The other good mod for a -17 MPU is the single 2732 at U2. That lets you use any -17 or stern m100 game with only one EPROM. Less sockets to change and not too many jumpers and track cuts.

    So what about games that utilize a sound card, for instance, Rolling Stones. Will it run on the -17 board if modified to use a combo 2732 at U2?

    #12 4 years ago
    Quoted from barakandl:Following that modification outlined in the FO597 will not let you use 2732 or 2716 at U2 and U6.

    But doesn't what you say conflict with this comment? I'm still confused.

    #16 4 years ago
    Quoted from Quench:

    I've looked at the Pinwiki dual U2/U6 2732 mod and it looks to me like it can be simplified. I will have a deeper look into it tomorrow and report back.

    Looking forward to your response.

    #19 4 years ago

    Ok, so just to be clear....I have a -17 I'd like to use in a Rolling Stones machine. I have a set of U2 and U6 2732 Rolling Stones EPROMS. The board has not been updated (i.e., FO597). I have removed all the old sockets and ready to install new ones, except U3-U5 which I plan to leave blank. Is what you are saying that the -17 will work then if I do the jumpers and cuts shown in the pinwiki (see attached).

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    #22 4 years ago
    Quoted from Quench:I can confirm that this simpler mod works.
    I did the mod on a Stern MPU-100 board which is the same as a Bally-17 board. It's working fine in my -35 Bally game.

    Thanks for the confirmation. I am waiting for sockets. When they arrive I will complete this mod.

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