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Controlled Lamps not Working after Replacing Rectifier Board

By Pinslot

4 years ago


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#1 4 years ago

I replaced a very grotty looking rectifier board on my Bally Star Trek because after replacing most molex connectors at J1 - J3, I could not get Playfield GI to work consistently. I took great care to hook all wires up correctly. I'm getting 177 volts at Test Point 2, 12,6 v at TP3, 7,4 AC at TP4 and 43V at TP 5, but ZERO V at TP 1. The fuses are good.

I took the transformer out of the game and checked continuity from all wires I'd soldered [E1 to E12] to the transformer lugs from the front of the board. All tested good.

I stared a game: it boots fine and plays ok. In fact everything works except the controlled lamps on the playfield. (Which worked find before I installed the repro board).

Where should I look?

All hints appreciated.

#3 4 years ago

Thanks so much. I’ll try that.

#4 4 years ago

First, I cut the zip ties on the wire bundles and really checked that the wires are going to the correct transformer lugs as stated in the schematics. They do.

I have three questions:

1. With ONLY J2 plugged in and game on I tested AC voltage at E9. This was only 4.6v. Is that within reasonable limits?

2. I also tested DV voltage at E10. Here I got 3.3 V. Again this seems to be very low. Too low?

3. I'm testing voltage at the test points with ONLY J2 connected. Do I need to connect J1 or J3 to get a reading at Test Point 1

All hints / advice / help appreciated.

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#6 4 years ago

I only reconnected wiring to the rectifier board.

Is it conceivable that this board is not compatible with this game?

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#8 4 years ago

I am indeed not an expert at soldering. I have done some Google research and I see I have probably created some cold solder joints.

Should I disconnect wires and then resolder them correctly or heat up each soldered point and add a little more solder?

#13 4 years ago

If I disconnect the wire at lug 13 and measure from lug 13 to ground, Will that tell me if I’m getting the correct AC voltage from that lug?

#15 4 years ago

Thanks.

From lug 13 to 14 I get about 8v AC.

From Test Point 1 to ground I get no reading.

Perhaps the new rectifier board is the problem.

What should I test next?

#17 4 years ago

Thanks!

I Put red probe on + leg of BR and black probe on - . Got 6 VDC.

Got 8.2 VAC across the other two legs.

Transformer assembly is not screwed in.

The ground braid on the head is firmly connected to the head.

The mystery is: why no DC at Test Point 1...???

#19 4 years ago

Thanks.

„you will have to physically trace from the rectifier positive output to TP1.“

This I am trying to do. It‘s very difficult as you can‘t see most of the traces on this board. The circuit isn‘t interrupted from + of the BR to R2. I can‘t work out where it goes from the other end of R2.

#21 4 years ago

TP1 is definitely the 5v test point. I have no schematic, but a fellow pinhead took a good look at a photo of the board on the vendor‘s website. There are also traces going from the + leg of the BR to J1 and Test Point 1 on the front side of the board, so he recommended desoldering and then resoldering that leg, which I will do.

#22 4 years ago

Yay! Problem solved.

A smarter man than I suggested the break in continuity was between the + of BR1 and the traces on the top of the board. I reflowed the solder there (also on the back) and I got 6VDC at TP1. I hooked up J1 and J3 and the playfield lamps work. In fact everything works Many thanks for all the useful hints.

My learnings:

Completely remove the transformer from the cab head to connect a new rectifier board.
Buy a proper board holder.
Label the wires. Some of those shades of green and blue look awfully similar.
Although this generation of pins is very well documented, I have to accept my limitations. I'm not an electrician and sometimes you should ask for help sooner.
Don't rule out an unlikely solution: in this case that a new repro-board had a break in continuity.

And the final learning: as there are no local pin-technicians where I live, I am going to only buy Bally EEs in future in order to build up my own expertise and not get on your nerves so much.

Thanks again

#24 4 years ago

That‘s a good idea. Will do.

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