Just another 55 days to the "A night with Jersey Jack Pinball" event at Expo. If nothing else, someone has to get answers out of the crew.

Maybe Gary is overseas with "Spotty Cell Service" too.

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But JJP spends so much on Toys, Keefer's awesome code, quality control etc......

I'm sure those upper washers by the "plastics" are gentle on the balls.

I meant the upper washers. I edited my post. Sorry for the confusion.

Some have given one of the COmpaNies $550.00 [plus shipping] for a spare playfield. That COmpaNy must have one helluva hypnotist's pocket watch......

JJP would find a way to monetize it.

Well, Jack says JJP is working on it. Listen to his one-way statement on the monotone sycophant twins podcast; "It's from the heart". His retirement may have been pushed back a bit with this.

Thing 1 and Thing 2.

I've completed several swaps of Eight Ball Deluxe and Centaur playfields. 20-22 hours each including troubleshooting and adjustments for me.

I'm not sure. Many on these problem playfield threads say that the JJP playfields will be easier, taking less time due to modularity, added connectors etc. I know I would not perform a playfield swap for less than $2K. I would need the complete machine as I'd need to make sure it properly fit and seats in the cabinet as well as every light and switch worked.

I may value my time differently than others so if someone will do it for $1k and it's top-notch work, that's the way to go. Also note, I am not offering to swap playfields at this time. My personal schedule is booked for two years.

This pinball thing is more akin to BMW sending you a new engine block and the a connecting rod that snapped and grenaded your engine. Remove engine, remove everything from the old engine and install it on the new one. Don't forget $200.00 or more worth of gaskets & seals. Also hundreds of dollars worth of special tools.....

Bally and Williams, when they were real, stand-alone companies were publically traded in the '70's forward. They gained great Capital to expand and diversify. Selling slot machines as Gambling expanded sure helped Bally. Williams (Seeburg, the Parent company) stumbled with them at first, stopped making them then got back into the business in the '90's.

When they had issues, they had real, parts stocking, service department equipped distributors who handled repairs, kitting of repair parts and would install parts if needed. They repaired boards, monitors etc. in-house quickly. The service department was very busy with ten technicians and three parts guys. The manufacturers paid the distributors to make problems go away.

I briefly worked for Bally Midwest (Former Empire Distributing) in their Livonia, Michigan branch as a board technician. I left the route operator for more money and what I thought would be a chance to grow. A week later, the two owners of the route and their silent partner came in and talked to the GM of the branch (Everybody's pal, Hank Heiser) asking if he would be pissed if they offered me a deal I couldn't refuse. Or, they asked him to fire me so I would come crawling back to them. I was called in the office and they made me a really nice offer so I went back. Of course the business later went South with the video game crash so I eventually left the business, re-entered college and never looked back. Other than as a hobbyist and one of Clay's slaves at the VFW.

Of course if you're in a Tesla, you'll be fine since they are the best-built, highest quality vehicles there are. Just like JJP machines.

Maybe buy a few new slot machines instead of pins. You think pins are expensive? The new slots are approaching $40K apiece with an unlicensed theme.

Call them again. As soon as they say that, tell them to stop right there. You have f-i-v-e minutes starting now to solve this. Otherwise I'm calling the credit card company and starting a chargeback. I have my waste of time CONtacts with you documented. You can come pick up your piece of shit machine. I am done. Don't care if it's a distributor getting dinked, they will sue you or short pay you on a current invoice.

Show them that two can play this game....

High traffic casinos with a popular game get under 90 day payback. If the trend is significantly less, out they go back to the manufacturer.

They did publish something. All of their flyers state "Game subject to change".

BBB is a Joke, IMO. That said, Stern has a better rating than JJP or Pinball Sales.com

So he was extorted, I mean he paid, to join the BBB and then tried to weasel out on work. Glad it helped you be made whole.

You know if a verbal question attack is staged on Jack, he will have Martin edit it out. Just like his attack on Gary was edited out from the 2011 TPF video that's out there.

There is a big difference between a "Service Action" or Campaign versus a "Recall". Whether the Recall is "voluntary" or forced, it means NHTSA was involved in the USA, MOT in Canada, TUV in Germany etc.

But there was a Lamborghini in the executive lot at Williams (3401 N. California Ave.) in the mid-1990's.

Also a Bentley at WMS in Waukegan (and N. California when Brian G. was slumming it) until 2013.

If you're not the original owner of the shirt or did not buy it from an authorized distributor, no warranty. If it was a freebie tossed to you at a pinball show ra-ra pep rally, no warranty.

That has to be the first time that he ever lied in a post for dramatization.

He's slipping as he forgot to write at least one word in his fable using all CAPITAL letters to get better SHOCK VALUE.

And as I always say, my personal time is worth double of what I make in salary.

Double of what your last job's pay rate was adjusted for inflation plus double any monthly defined benefit income divided by 176. Social Security, pensions. Nothing for dividends, interest, Capital gains or annuity income.

Tough way to make a buck......

Michigan Small Claims Court limit is $5k per "disagreement".

Pick up the phone and call Sterk/Stern. Calling , after getting out of an automated attendant, provides instant two-way communication. No waiting for a response that may never come.

Gary's education is in the field of Law. He knows what he has and doesn't have to do.

Yes.

Can somebody please tell me how to FIX THE CHIP?

I loved their first response in 1986: $5000.00 off any new Audi 5000 model with an automatic transmission. Then in '87 it went up to $8,000.00 of ANY new Audi (this was USA only).

If JJP offers $8k off any of their pins, it would save face. No need to adjust for inflation.

I bought an '87 5000CS turbo quattro new with the deal they offered. It was awesome. The car lasted 18 years and had 286,000 miles before I donated it to charity. Owned several Audi's between '83 and this year. They have been great vehicles.

They can go pretty fast too.

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Has JJP offered a full refund if you return the complete, defective machine? That seems like another solution.

Yes. Via the distributor Cleveland Coin. A real brick & mortar distributor with a stocked parts and service department. Also vending machine sales & service. Now known as Shaffer Distributing.

Plywood does that.

"Cool Joe" Kaminkow. Was "VP of Cool Games at IGT". If you see him, as him how his "That's Entertainment" CONcept worked out. It was supposed to challenge Chuck E. Cheese's Pizza Time Theaters and Show Biz Pizza Place.

Loved his silly title at IGT: Vice President of Cool Games

You meant "4' wide trees" but it got the point across. My old job took me to Boise, Idaho a lot. I remember seeing plywood being made. Quite the industrial process. Not sure if it was at a Weyerhaeuser or Boise-Cascade facility. Might have been in the Carolinas now that I think of it. I traveled so much back then...

I'm surprised JJP's best-built, highest quality pins were not equipped with redwood or sequoia playfields. At least on the ones over $9k retail

I see what you did there....

Well, at least on KaPow's head.

I wouldn't join any club that would have me as a member......

Watch on a PC, not on a phone. The file type won't play the audio correctly on my phone either.

Great message to hear.