So is this just the new normal? Pooled and chipping clear around posts on playfields, and playfield clearcoat that is so soft that they will wear quickly and can be dimpled with a fingernail? JJP has had this happening extensively on POTC and now Wonka, and Stern had this happen on GOTG, beatles, batman, and most recently now Jurassic Park 2. (The pooling matters because eventually that clear will start to chip or wear prematurely) People have had the chipping happen in the first 100 games. These are also not in the minority, it seems that the majority of pins of these titles have these issues. Now some pins of these titles are absent of this issue, but it appears a majority of the pins of each of these titles seems to be affected based upon reading through the threads for these pins. Pretty wide spread issue.

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GOTG I think pre-dates POTC. I would love to know if Mirco was in fact used for the stern pins having the issue.

I saw it on a GOTG pro too yea. The pooling quickly turned to chipping. So it does happen, I just don't know how often.

The problem is, as of now, neither manufacturer has responded in any official way about these issues.

I hope we don't need a whole new sub forum lol

Well unfortunately we don’t know for sure if mirco is supplying stern. It’s a guess since we know mirco is supplying JJP and JJP has bad clear issues. But we could be wrong about stern and mirco.

There are pins being made today though that do not have this issue, which makes this all the more aggravating. Where are the PFs coming from for the pins that don't have the issue?

Agreed, there are pins made today that are fine and I gaurantee their PFs aren't sitting for 6-12 months before being made.

CGC, also Munsters, BKSOR, ST Vaults etc no reported issues that I have seen.

But still, with seemingly zero reported issues on those titles I feel like that data does matter?

Thanks for posting, it's the first one I've seen myself!

Yea that's a good point. I guarantee there are buyers who are going to obsess over this, even though it's such a wide spread thing.

No that’s not it. Plenty of pins are coming out today without these issues. Unless only the affected PFs are coming from some uptight country that bans everything. :p

Stern is replacing at least one PF already and said this is not normal. Saw it in the JP2 club thread.

https://pinside.com/pinball/forum/topic/jurassic-park-stern-2019-owners-club-welcome-to-jurassic-park/page/10#post-5165129

Source? Also don’t forget mirco is not in the US. And given that many playfields do not have this problem, I don’t see this being because of some new regulation.

HEP mentioned that PFs with this issue are likely going to have much bigger problems down the road. Whether it is time or plays we don’t know, but the bubbling/chipping is indicative of a larger problem that affects the entire playfield. There are playfields that had this issue and appear to be deteriorating or having the issue spread rather quickly. Point being, the long term is affected in some way, in varying degrees depending on how bad your specific PF is affected. Covering it up now with a washer is just hiding the problem for now. Eventually, it will get worse.

You haven’t seen the HUO Iron Maiden example yet then someone posted. It’s pretty bad.

HEP said something that made a lot of sense. He indicated that the fact that the playfield ink comes up with the clear almost makes it seem like possibly a playfield screen/printing/ink issue. He said something along the lines of if it is a adhesion issue it needs to be fixed immediately moving forward by adding some type of adhesion promoter to the ground floor of the playfields or finding a product that bites in better.