Well add my IMDN LE to the list.. I just checked, every post has bubbles or blisters, and Munsters Premium which is 5 months old.

Even my Nugent beat as it is, is still in good shape.

Where's Stern with this? I just paid in full for a replacement.

I haven't had a chance to completely look over the PF but from what I have seen so far the holes that need resessing are milled after the clear. I've done probably 20 PF swaps and IM looks easier than TAF. Mylared areas came with. Incase you are wondering yes I paid full replacement price.

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To replace the one with the damage around the posts where the clear and ink is lifting.

Just the standard we have forwarded your pictures email to Engineering, and QC

New Elvira Teaser on FB and people have forgotten there is even a PF problem at all, $$$$$ in hand

https://www.facebook.com/1526785630/videos/10220334608305117/

Yeah it's not adhered, defiantly a blister

It took several calls to Stern after initial email with pictures. I was told that QC has determined this to be Normal. That the clear is solid and hard (which it's not, it's a frigging blister) To which I was told to send in more pictures showing that I could press down on the affected areas, which I did, and sent video. Nothing back. I will be calling again.

However I was also told that many people are calling about this (as they should be).

Promo photos of Elvira. Already shows blistering!!

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I just got my new Elvira Pin, or rather spent my money I saved for Elvira on a CGC game. Much happier.

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LOL.. What's wrong with them is they are Stern games. They can't be used they will fall apart. Poor little Snowflake machines.

I got a new machine with some Balls.

Owning two LE's (not JP) with these issues, and seeing the issues on Current JP's I would cancel your order. Don't waste your money. Get a CGC game, or wait for Deeproot, or someone else who cares about customer service, and care about the quality of their product.

This is helping a little.

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My latest NIB purchase.

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Don't like English ale huh? Taste better than Bud, Miller, Coors, or any of that other piss water

My Star Wars LE is good, other than the Dimples.

With the obvious problems with the clear coat and art work de-laminating with pressure, what do you suppose the new Elvira is going to look like in short order with the right side VUK kicking the ball out to the middle of the PF? I have a hunch that the center of that PF is going to start peeling post haste. Then it will start chipping, and more peeling as the ball rolls over it.

Yup I've seen the same issue with games with washers too. So now they've pushed the damage out further, which then decrease the distance from the ball. I think the ones with washers are going to start peeling away faster.

New Stern balls for your Elvira

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https://www.bbb.org/us/il/elk-grove-village/profile/pinball-machines/stern-pinball-inc-0654-88304493

Well having actually cleared over a digital print. I looks like the printing did not soak into, or adhere to the wood, it has no bit into the substrate at all. The clear coat then softened the art. Then something gouged the art, causing it to peel with the clear clean off the wood. If the art was applied correctly to the wood, time given before clear, and time between clear coats, this would have most likely been a scratch, and not a peel. Point being ink should not peel off the wood leaving bare wood. There's not even an ink stain on that wood.

Basically it should not be tearing and pulling away from the wood, it should just be a scratch. Poor prep, and incompatible products.

Yeah it looks different, but it's all part of the same problem/issue. I have a feeling his game got gouged while everything was still soft. My thoughts on why the clear is still soft is incompatible products used. The ink is reacting with the clear. I have seen this issue before with paints. Eventually everything will harden, but that's not going to stop the ink/clear from chipping and peeling from the playfield as nothing is adhering. My guess would also be that the ink/clear will stick better to plastic inserts, and judging by the removal of the art around post, the clear appears to not have an issue sticking to bare wood.

Should have stuck with enamels and screening art.

Same

Few hundred more plays and it just get's worse. Still no word from Stern, phone calls and emails. Still waiting.

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Yes that's the Original PF. Keeping the unused stored for a while, as it may have the same issues.

Yeah I've heard nothing from stern on my issues. More art just keeps coming off. 2+ months.

So is anyone hearing from Stern? How many with defective play fields are constantly emailing, or calling Stern?

So Stern finally replied. They said they are willing to send me an unpopulated Playfield.

Yes for maiden.

I highly doubt it, probably left over stock, or seconds

Not on a new stern.

Was told they are no longer doing that.

I stopped buying from Stern, and currently am only buying from CGC.

By now the people buying these things should know better. If they buy it then come here complaining about PF pooling, chipping lifting etc.. Then they should be booted from the thread. Look Everyone here has know about this issue for over 7000 posts. They should know by now, they are wasting money on crap.