If GNR comes out and the playfield issues still persist. People aren't going to forgive a 3rd time. They got 2 huge titles coming out they cannot afford to screw these titles up

There's a sth pro at a local bar. Has literally every main issue that people complain about and the game doesn't even get a huge amount of play. People need to stop saying these issues are normal cause they aren't. It's looking like Playfield protectors are going to become a must the way these new playfields are holding up

If people are planning on keeping games long term. Looks like playfield protectors are going to start becoming mandatory

These playfields put out by Stern over the last couple of years are hands-down the worst quality I've ever seen. We do know the answer why the playfields are garbage. It's cause Stern doesn't give a shit, Plain and simple. They don't stand by thier product and i've been told by Distros if you buy nib and you get a bad playfield there's very little that can be done. Why i only buy used Sterns. Hoping that things will be better for TMNT but i doubt it

For me going forward any new or used games within the last 6 year i purchase are all getting a playfield protector. I know a lot of people dont like protectors but its sure as hell as has to be better than letting our playfields disintegrate.

Considering people including myself rushed out to buy a ninja turtles I doubt Stern cares. My turtles LE will stay in a box until i can get a playfield protector on it.

You got me there. Have an upvote my fine gentleman

People with games built within the last few months are still reporting problems. Now at the moment TMNT owners have not reported playfield issues but we'll see when more games are out in the field

As someone who constantly rags on stern for QC issues. I can honestly say on my tmnt le this is hands down by far the best playfield ive seen from stern in years. Playfield looks and feels like glass. No raised inserts.

You win some and lose some. I'll take loose parts over a crappy playfield any day of the week.

I bought a tmnt LE. Had the 1,8,9 diverter issue. Let my distro know i need professional help to get it fixed. By the next day Stern and my distro had someone out to help fix my game. This was my first NIB stern and while my issue was resolved at this point I do not think i will ever buy NIB again which is sad because i was gearing up to buy a JP premium(or LE if i could find used) The frustration i felt having my game out of commission at 0 plays. Well lets just say i have a Newfound respect for those who buy multiple NIB and or waiting for customer service to fix their issues.

I don't buy many games especially newer titles. From past experiences i've read on the forum it seems to be either Stern fixes the problem or they tell you to pound sand. From what i gathered from speaking with customer service. It seems they set up service calls more often than one would think.

Fixing the diverter solved the issues. If the diverter doesn't work the ball will just keep shooting balls out hoping to load the van and also will keep throwing node errors. I personally think its a flawed design. I'm surprised they didn't program a way to disable the diverter or if it isn't working using virtual locks.

At current prices i expect these games at the very least to work out of the box. I personally know other people that had to hire people to fix that diverter issue as well. My diverter sunk so deep in the game that close to half the playfield had to come off to get it entirely fixed. I have no more skin in the NIB Lottery. I'll let everyone else take their spin