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Continued playfield issues with JJP and Stern


By f3honda4me

5 months ago



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#4751 3 days ago
Quoted from chuckwurt:

It’s not actually uv light.

They don't fall in the UV spectrum? Hu.. I wonder how it gets the "glow" affect then?

#4752 3 days ago
Quoted from Sako-TRG:

the wigs on Steve Ritchie’s head

Well, at least on KaPow's head.

#4753 3 days ago

Did stern really just have another price increase this week on all models? Rofl. God I am so glad I went back to playing retro video games.

#4754 3 days ago
Quoted from Dr-pin:

Any Word on what the uv does to all the plastic clearcoat etc over time?

Fully depends on the overall strength of the UV LEDs, how long they stay on, and if Stern incorporated products with light stabilizers.

Potential effects? Yellowing in a poly-based clear coat, yellowing or brittleness of polymer plastics, faster-perishing rubber (Superbands especially since they are polyurethane), and playfield and cabinet color fading over time. Not to mention potential player health risks to eyes and skin, although the overall player UV exposure could be pretty low since the player is standing and the LEDs would theoretically be pointing at the table and not outward towards the player.

#4755 3 days ago
Quoted from Lamprey:

They don't fall in the UV spectrum? Hu.. I wonder how it gets the "glow" affect then?

Not an expert, but you’re not going to get a tan from these lights is what I’m getting at. Haha. They are just the right hue to make the art appear.

I think.

#4756 2 days ago
Quoted from Sako-TRG:

Why the hell would Stern make play-fields that last?
They are disposable items FFS....
If they lasted forever then they wouldn’t sell any new pins. It’s business at the end of the day. Keeps the viagra in GS’s pocket and the wigs on Steve Ritchie’s head
Give them a break guys!
Still haven’t had a response from my pooled to the Max IMDN, email sent circa 9 months ago. I only wanted to buy a replacement playfield. Great CS guys

With respect, you realize that people don't buy new pins because their old ones stop working, don't you? Pinball Machines are not like toasters or light bulbs. People buy new pins because they're either bored of their current pins (Home Use), or their current pins are slowing in quarter-drop (Location Use).

Another big reason people buy NIB, is because people know that they can recoup a substantial amount of the machine's cost back on re-sale. If pinball machines started wearing out after only a few years, then you'd see a lot less NIB sales, because the long-term value wouldn't be there anymore.

#4757 2 days ago
Quoted from chuckwurt:

Not an expert, but you’re not going to get a tan from these lights is what I’m getting at. Haha. They are just the right hue to make the art appear.
I think.

It depends on the UV LEDs being used. If they are higher Wattage or there are a lot of them, it can be harmful to your skin or your eyes over time, possibly even brief exposure if they are bright enough. The added danger is that we can't see UV light wavelengths, so we can't sense low vs high-intensity UV light as we can with other visible light sources like sunlight. Unless Stern releases more specs and the number of the LEDs they are using, I'd pass on this upgrade myself if I owned the table. Or maybe look into UV filtering playfield glass, if such a thing exists.

#4758 2 days ago
Quoted from Multiballmaniac1:

Did stern really just have another price increase this week on all models? Rofl. God I am so glad I went back to playing retro video games.

Dude, stick around, the hobby desperately needs quality hobbyists like you!

Are you giving up on Deep Root already?! That was fast.

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#4759 2 days ago
Quoted from Multiballmaniac1:

Did stern really just have another price increase this week on all models? Rofl. God I am so glad I went back to playing retro video games.

Stern pinball: IKEA quality at ETHAN ALLEN prices.......

#4760 2 days ago
Quoted from TomGWI:

Hopefully cure it.

Post of the thread right there folks!

#4761 2 days ago

My JP Premium, built 27th December 2019. 85 plays on it as of last night and hardly a dimple and no pooling. Maybe I got lucky and the Christmas shutdown allowed more time for it to cure?

#4762 2 days ago
Quoted from CrazyLevi:

Dude, stick around, the hobby desperately needs quality hobbyists like you!
Are you giving up on Deep Root already?! That was fast.

I was only cheering on Deeproot for fun. Now I am in Spooky's corner and CGC. Stern got too greedy and overconfident.

Even if I leave the hobby I’ll always be on pinside.

#4763 1 day ago
Quoted from Extraballz:

Stern pinball: IKEA quality at ETHAN ALLEN prices.......

Don’t insult the quality of IKEA furniture by comparing it to Stern

IKEA wood is hard and doesn’t dimple if you breath on it too hard.

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