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Continued playfield issues with JJP and Stern


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#3252 42 days ago
Quoted from johnny77:

Stern dont care nor do distribuor. My GB pre as a issues with playfield chipping. Talked to stern and dis. Its been a year and nothing. Trash company and crooked dis.

Who’s the distributor so we stay away?

#3253 42 days ago

At one point last year I was a potential buyer for at least 2 of 4 Stern Machines I had either been eyeing or anticipating.

Now, I am planning on picking up a Spooky and a couple of used machines.

No way I am sigining up for the treatment Stern is doling out to their customers.

#3254 42 days ago
Quoted from Jackalwere:

I ordered my ACNC at beginning of August and got it last week. That's 5 months. Early adopters are going to have a longer wait. And I love it just as much as Munsters. With the way the code is progressing, maybe a little more...

I actually like ACNC alot also. It's their best game by far. Really really great game for sure.

#3255 42 days ago
Quoted from Who-Dey:

They arent the only game in town but they kind of are. JJP is too expensive for many people and they also have quality problems and they have proven that they dont give a shit about their customers.
Spooky, it will take you a year to get your game, IF you can even get one and their games arent as fun as Sterns games either.
CGC is the best company out there but they only make remakes. If they start making their own games and they are good, they could really hurt Stern big time..
Deeproot....we will see what happens there. They are big talkers and they plan on taking a nice piece of the pie from Stern but so far they are just all talk.
Stern could bury them all except CGC if they wasnt so stupid. All they have to do is up their quality and they smash the competition but for some reason they don't seem to care about doing that. Stern makes killer games but their quality and terrible customer service is definitely hurting them. I am personally afraid to buy anything from them right now and I'm also pissed about their customer service so I won't buy right now because of that either.

Maybe they're looking for an exit strategy, maybe they're focused on maximising profit vs cost ratio to be attractive to investors, etc. Either way they seem to think they can get away with it, and it's possible they might.

You're pretty much right though when you say they're not the only game in town but sortof are. They're the ones cranking out multiple new theme pins every year. If you choose not to buy from them - and if you're been burnt or care about you're going to be treated you shouldn't - then you're basically saying that you're not going to be buying NIB pins for the forseeable future. CGC and JJP don't crank out games with anything like the same pace, and the latter has had issues too.

People kick up a big stink about not buying from Stern in the future, but I wonder how many of those people will cave when they bring out a theme that attracts them. Words on forums cost nothing, but FOMO is a helluva drug.

#3256 42 days ago
Quoted from Tranquilize:

I just sent my second email today, after two months of crickets. Would emails every day do anything?

Pick up the phone and call Sterk/Stern. Calling , after getting out of an automated attendant, provides instant two-way communication. No waiting for a response that may never come.

#3257 42 days ago
Quoted from Who-Dey:

Spooky, it will take you a year to get your game, IF you can even get one and their games arent as fun as Sterns games either.

Well, I absolutely Love my ACNC. I think it's the funnest game I have! Yes, I waited 18 months because I ordered right away. But I knew that going in. Spooky customer service is great! I was going to buy a NIB JP pro, but decided to grab a used Hobbit instead. It's built like a tank and as heavy as hell. I know J.J. has had some C.C. issues as well, but they are sending me a free Hobbit upgrade kit (because of build date) even though I'm the 3rd owner and warranty is long worn off. So apparently they care somewhat.

#3258 41 days ago

I'd call Stern & the distro then send follow up emails

The call makes you serious & human

The email is to document the unresolved fuckery.

#3259 41 days ago

Just received a reply back from my third email. I'll call in a week or so or report my response if I get one.

#3260 41 days ago
Quoted from CubeSnake:

My sentiments exactly. I was going to buy a JP for my wife (she's a FREAK for anything about that film!) but thanks to Stern's attitude towards their customers who needed support, no thanks. I'm done with anything Stern puts out.

A CGC game will be my next nib when I have the cash. Stern isn’t getting my money, not when friends of mine have games with chipping and no response for months. I ain’t joining that club.

#3261 41 days ago

FYI my strategy worked, for me, last time.

I had a shit AS cabinet & ended up with a new cabinet & the swap was done by a Stern paid tech.

It started with a call to the distro then an email with pics & video.

YMMV

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#3262 40 days ago

I think folks need to start naming distributors who are not doing their jobs as distributors. I think you will find some pretty popular ones that seem to "lose" emails about customer service problems, yet respond in 5 minutes to a sales inquiry.

#3263 40 days ago

I have a lot of dimpling but luckily that is all so far. How long after it goes out of production are playfields available for sale?

#3264 40 days ago

Jack and I are still in regular communication. My case is still open.

-wonka owner #08742206, play field #105, clear coat case #5107

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#3265 40 days ago
Quoted from smalltownguy2:

Jack and I are still in regular communication. My case is still open.

He probably has bigger issues to take care of. And you're just a small town guy, after all.

#3266 40 days ago
Quoted from littlecammi:

He probably has bigger issues to take care of. And you're just a small town guy, after all.

I guess I was just lucky as far as JJP is concerned.My distributor Flipnout pinball took care
of the issues I had.

#3267 40 days ago
Quoted from romulusx:

I guess I was just lucky as far as JJP is concerned.My distributor Flipnout pinball took care
of the issues I had.

What issues did you have? Curious what was done.

#3268 40 days ago
Quoted from SR230CC:

I have a lot of dimpling but luckily that is all so far. How long after it goes out of production are playfields available for sale?

To clarify. When are Stern playfields available to buy? Iron Maiden

#3269 39 days ago
Quoted from SR230CC:

To clarify. When are Stern playfields available to buy? Iron Maiden

FYI, that one will dimple too.

#3270 39 days ago
Quoted from Roostking:

FYI, that one will dimple too.

But will it crater?

#3271 39 days ago
Quoted from Mike_J:

But will it crater?

That will cost you extra!

#3272 39 days ago
Quoted from Mike_J:

But will it crater?

Possibly..

#3273 38 days ago
Quoted from SR230CC:

To clarify. When are Stern playfields available to buy? Iron Maiden

While they are in production you can buy them. Generally through a distributor. After they go out of production you will often see them with places like GAP, marco, etc.

#3274 35 days ago

Seems some have short memories.
Those getting all excited over a potential stranger Things release.
Using festive cheer + pearls of wisdom from Bad Santa, the guys in customer services can teabag my nut sack.... i know they are busy but it’s been the same for a while now. Same treatment to many other customers, bit unfair.
Ignoring emails - way to go. I sent correspondence months ago....I wasn’t asking for much, if anything, only a price on an unpopulated replacement IMDN playfield for my NIB, for when things inevitably worsen, I can swap it out. Pooled to the Max on every post. Purchased new by me.
Anyway........
In the meantime let me help you with your new pending release cabinet artwork to show no hard feelings:
I’m sure it will be Awesome

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#3275 35 days ago

I'm gonna wait for the Eleven Blood 'Double' Snot Blob - Pro Vault Edition!
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#3276 34 days ago

Going to be a long time before I lose that bad taste in my mouth when I think of the jacked up JPPro Stern sent me. On the bright side, not a damn scratch on the Golden Tee 2020, and the online tournaments are sweet. Pinballs should do that too. Think I’ll pick up a Pump It Up next. Lots of temptations other than pinball loot crates ^_^

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#3277 33 days ago

As some of you know when I got my Jurassic Park from Stern the playfield had pooling. This is what it looks like now in the home environment.

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#3278 33 days ago
Quoted from TomGWI:

As some of you know when I got my Jurassic Park from Stern the playfield had pooling. This is what it looks like now in the home environment.[quoted image][quoted image][quoted image]

How many plays is on it now? It doesn’t look terrible but its still unacceptable for a new game and it will no doubt keep getting worse. I think pooling around the small posts is the worse area because the ball really smacks those posts hard and causes a lot of stress on the playfield.

#3279 33 days ago
Quoted from TomGWI:

As some of you know when I got my Jurassic Park from Stern the playfield had pooling. This is what it looks like now in the home environment.[quoted image][quoted image][quoted image]

and what is stern's response to your problem??

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#3280 33 days ago
Quoted from V4Vendetta:

and what is stern's response to your problem?

They will pretend it didn't happen and they will launch a new game with the same issues. Perhaps a Price increase, too.

#3281 33 days ago
Quoted from Darkwing:

Going to be a long time before I lose that bad taste in my mouth when I think of the jacked up JPPro Stern sent me. On the bright side, not a damn scratch on the Golden Tee 2020, and the online tournaments are sweet. Pinballs should do that too. Think I’ll pick up a Pump It Up next. Lots of temptations other than pinball loot crates ^_^[quoted image]

Nice! I've been contemplating buying a GoldenTee 2020 as well. Sounds like a fun addition to the game room.

#3282 33 days ago
Quoted from TomGWI:

As some of you know when I got my Jurassic Park from Stern the playfield had pooling. This is what it looks like now in the home environment.[quoted image][quoted image][quoted image]

There is a $500+ price drop plus it will scare off a large percentage of future buyers.

Replacement playfield is only way to not take a hit now - unfortunately.

#3283 33 days ago
Quoted from TomGWI:

As some of you know when I got my Jurassic Park from Stern the playfield had pooling. This is what it looks like now in the home environment.[quoted image][quoted image][quoted image]

Gross, you'll probably not get a response just like most of us.

#3284 33 days ago
Quoted from Who-Dey:

How many plays is on it now? It doesn’t look terrible but its still unacceptable for a new game and it will no doubt keep getting worse. I think pooling around the small posts is the worse area because the ball really smacks those posts hard and causes a lot of stress on the playfield.

149 to date. I do have pooling around the small post and others. Those areas have not chipped yet but I know they are going to.

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#3285 33 days ago
Quoted from V4Vendetta:

and what is stern's response to your problem??

I have had my distributor dealing with Stern. I did not contact them directly because they NEVER respond to my emails. My distributor told me I would get a new unpopulated playfield. That was back in early November. He has checked with them a few times about sending one out to me.

#3286 33 days ago
Quoted from TomGWI:

As some of you know when I got my Jurassic Park from Stern the playfield had pooling. This is what it looks like now in the home environment.[quoted image][quoted image][quoted image]

I hope Stern offers a fully populated playfield replacement. That is not acceptable.

#3287 33 days ago
Quoted from cpr9999:

There is a $500 price drop plus it will scare off a large percentage of future buyers.
Replacement playfield is only way to not take a hit now - unfortunately.

I agree. I have done a few playfield swaps and they roughly take 40-60 hours when you do them. It really sucks that I’ll have to do all the work for a NIB game that had the issue to start with (chipping).

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#3288 33 days ago
Quoted from PanzerFreak:

I hope Stern offers a fully populated playfield replacement. That is not acceptable.

They won’t. They don’t care. Why would they help me out? I’ve only bought 19 NIB games from them in the last 10 years. I’m just a number like everyone else. Unless you are in the industry or know someone at Stern they are not going to go the extra mile. They are more worried about getting games on the line then fixing issues that go out the door.
I told my distributor I would not buy Elvira and now Stranger Things. I’m not going to buy a new game from them to repopulate another playfield. My time and money are too valuable.
When I do repopulate it, assuming I still get a playfield, I am going to stream it and put it up on YouTube and Facebook. At least it’s will help those effected.

#3289 33 days ago
Quoted from TomGWI:

As some of you know when I got my Jurassic Park from Stern the playfield had pooling. This is what it looks like now in the home environment.[quoted image][quoted image][quoted image]

I'm not trying to be a wise guy or anything but I'm a relative noob and want to understand what I'm looking at.

Is the problem in the photos around the lower post, with the metal washer under it?
It looks like the blue paint around the post has chipped and that's what the white areas are?

#3290 33 days ago
Quoted from TomGWI:

As some of you know when I got my Jurassic Park from Stern the playfield had pooling. This is what it looks like now in the home environment.[quoted image][quoted image][quoted image]

Wasn't Stern's response to "fixing" the issue by placing washers under the post?? Yet, you have a JP with washers under it, and it's still pooling and chipping..........

Good job stern! *sarcasm*

Hope you get this issue corrected!

#3291 33 days ago
Quoted from Moli410:

Wasn't Stern's response to "fixing" the issue by placing washers under the post?? Yet, you have a JP with washers under it, and it's still pooling and chipping..

They won't even fix their Coil Stop issues.

And that would be about as easy as anything to fix...just stop using cheap shit parts.

Instead, they just keep on churning out crap with higher and higher price points.

#3292 33 days ago

For what it’s worth, my Premium JP has no issues that I can see.

#3293 33 days ago
Quoted from No_Pickles:

I'm not trying to be a wise guy or anything but I'm a relative noob and want to understand what I'm looking at.
Is the problem in the photos around the lower post, with the metal washer under it?
It looks like the blue paint around the post has chipped and that's what the white areas are?

Likely the paint/clear flaking aka paint chips

#3294 33 days ago
Quoted from bbulkley:

For what it’s worth, my Premium JP has no issues that I can see.

That’s great. I have also made comments like this for some of my other games. It doesn’t help the people that have issues though. I am not the only one with this issue.

#3295 33 days ago
Quoted from TomGWI:

I have had my distributor dealing with Stern. I did not contact them directly because they NEVER respond to my emails. My distributor told me I would get a new unpopulated playfield. That was back in early November. He has checked with them a few times about sending one out to me.

Anything less than a new populated playfield in your case is totally unacceptable. If your distro cant get that for you i would email and call stern and keep raising hell. Your distributor doesnt sound like much of a fightet, i would dump his or her ass also.

#3296 33 days ago
Quoted from TomGWI:

Likely the paint/clear flaking aka paint chips

I wonder why they wouldn't design the artwork around the post with a little buffer space and a black line, like they did around the other slingshot parts?

#3297 33 days ago
Quoted from No_Pickles:

I wonder why they wouldn't design the artwork around the post with a little buffer space and a black line, like they did around the other slingshot parts?

They do now. It was never a problem before, and (to me at least) looks a lot better when the art is seamless around playfield features.

#3298 33 days ago
Quoted from guitarded:

They will pretend it didn't happen and they will launch a new game with the same issues. Perhaps a Price increase, too.

LMAO!!!! Just like mine.

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#3299 33 days ago

I may have to wait over a year for my Rick and Morty, but still sounds a lot better than waiting on a replacement playfield from any of these jackwads.

#3300 33 days ago
Quoted from TomGWI:

They won’t. They don’t care. Why would they help me out? I’ve only bought 19 NIB games from them in the last 10 years. I’m just a number like everyone else. Unless you are in the industry or know someone at Stern they are not going to go the extra mile. They are more worried about getting games on the line then fixing issues that go out the door.
I told my distributor I would not buy Elvira and now Stranger Things. I’m not going to buy a new game from them to repopulate another playfield. My time and money are too valuable.
When I do repopulate it, assuming I still get a playfield, I am going to stream it and put it up on YouTube and Facebook. At least it’s will help those effected.

It's shocking that the company culture hasn't evolved to be more collector friendly. I've been a loyal customer for over 15 years with many NIB purchases (though not quite as many as you).

I realize all customers should be treated with respect, but you'd think Stern would recognize/reward loyalty? Can't believe they don't engage with you. If all 19 NIB games were purchased from the same distributor, then it's even more shocking the distributor isn't able to help you.

I do think the very early adopters end up taking the biggest risk. My JP2 Premium was built 11/22 and Stern seems to have worked out many of the build issues. The coil stops are still an issue, however (which is bizarre it hasn't been corrected yet).

It's very clear that time-to-market encourages many missteps. If they don't want to slow down, you'd think they would have QA/insurance budget set aside to help folks that get a flawed build. Not suggesting Stern should roll over on all issues/requests, but not engaging with both you & the distributor is just unacceptable.

Good luck!

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