Joemama said-I know waiting was hard but I NEVER considered dumping mine for a sternturd game.
I am not bashing them.

I am curious to see what bashing them looks like.

If you compress water i believe you get ice..., if its compressed tighter the atoms would fuse.

Compressing liquids:
http://www.physlink.com/Education/askExperts/ae15.cfm

Joemamma is not a troll. Actually, you can take most of what he says as gospel. He has his WOZ already and the proof of the pudding is in the eating.

Actually, ice is 10% larger than the water it replaces: It expands.

An atheist would say the gospel is just a bunch of made up stories? The point is most everything said here is opinion not fact.

I wonder if you could compress water on a really high gravity planet or maybe a black hole??

This is because of the way it freezes (under normal conditions). If it were compressed to the point of freezeing, i dont beleive that what you stated would be the case.

Will he answer the phone or call back? I have someone local telling me they'll get games for resale before day one orders?

Hold strong.

I am Invoice #1984 and my two machines just shipped this week.

Jen originally told me possibly the week prior to Memorial Day, but for sure the week of June 7th. That changed to the week of the 20-21st because they were getting organized. It ended up being the next week (this past one) so despite the bumps in the road, the light at the end of the tunnel is definitely in sight.

No idea why a few guys with higher invoice numbers got theirs already. No idea why a whole container is already on its way to Australia. Etc. Etc. Etc.

Botton line, it was $6500 and that's a good price for a pin you're gonna want to play, isn't it?

Yes.

LTG : )

That was a rhetorical question. He never has to my experience and doesn't return calls.

I am sure I will play this somewhere long before I get mine into the house.
As for the delays and constant tomorrow shipping dates...... Do what you feel you need to.
I could argue a case both ways but empathize with your situation.

At least we are to the point were games are shipping. I have to say I am a little disappointed in the speed of manufacturing.

Ouch.

Lol

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What difference does this possibly make?

I suspect Jack wishes he shipped every game a year ago.
I suspect Jack wishes he could dunk a basketball

What Jack WANTEd (and failed to deliver) doesn't help the OP one iota...

It would certainly seem like the OP can flip his preorder, enjoy his money for a while, and easily find a version once the thing is actually shipping/in stock somewhere.

Hold it. Wait a second. Invoice #1994?

That's a distributor's invoice. The famous #24 invoice posted here on Pinside.

Let me refresh your memory.

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Based on the assigned game numbers, I'm not convinced the second two games were actually ordered on 1/9 (especially since there WAS a 2 game order limit at the time).

I'm getting to a point where I feel I might need to make a phone call. I was the first person in my state to order the game, but now there are two other people who have bought their way in and have the game first. I wish Jack had stockpiled games more before shipping - having them trickle out over a period of half a year or more to people who have been waiting more than a year is frustrating. I'm sure the game is going to be great, but...

Holy detective work Batman!

Hmmmn

Sorry if I missed it, but how much?

We have found ditto's second Pinside handle!!!!

So funny - same boat here - exactly same. I'm hanging in as well. I love Hobbit theme but no way putting money down for pre-order.

That's the positive spirit! This guy who easily buys several NIB games should rearrange everything he did years ago to possibly save a few hundred bucks, simply cuz he's frustrated and his wife teases him. There's some great advice.

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I was fairly close to selling my spot too. Played v1.12 yesterday though and it's made me change my mind. I've got my own issues about shipping arrangements to the UK but ill not go into them on here

And what if they go under before you get a game? Or in your case two games?

I once drank the koolaid of JJp and had it blow up in my face in multiple ways. Now I know what Is truth and what is fiction. I also know that are you not guaranteed squat till the game shows up or your refund chck clears your bank. Glad your so confident in Jack I on the other hand have none but I seem to be a wee bit more conservative with my preordering desires and my needing every game to have a plaque.

Best of luck on your sale op and in my business as said before under promise and over deliver. You sleep better at night that way.

No sense beating a dead horse.......unless its enjoyable.

I agree with everything you have posted
I too believe that Jack has not done the right thing to his customers that ordered and paid up a LONG time ago
I placed my order in the first week, I will not be buying another game from him
I think I am up to my 4th "building it now, will ship next week" BS

I have felt like bailing several times this year, BUT, the games are shipping, you WILL get yours eventually

That's why it was funny.

Actually you CAN slightly compress a liquid.
That makes it slightly funny.

Now back to the problem of getting 12 oz of beer into a 6oz glass.

I know that you can compress it by some miniscule amount, but for all of my household chores, it can't be compressed.

Drink half the bottle, poor the rest. 'Problem' solved.

think your right, black holes can be a real space saving device-lol

I think you should hang in there. I ordered 2 on day one and another at the last minute which I traded to a friend for heir Standard order with the extras. I got an early one, and that came with the experience of dealing with some issues that needed to be straightened up, including driving the game back to Lakewood for them to diagnose and fix! If you got yours early and issues came up, that would have been worse and a pita for you and Jack! Let others help them get the kinks out and enjoy your trouble free game when it comes due to others sacrifices. The game disappoints very few(mine is on location). Just my 2 cents!
Pinaholic (the Legend)

As I said I have Jacks cell if you want to do more than bitch to people who can do nothing to help your problem.

He has always either answered my call or called me back. Once it took a little phone rag to hook up but he has treated me fine in the communication category.

Maybe venting here will help you. I urge you to call Jack and if you are pissed off let him know why. He doesn't strike me as a liar or someone who is hiding under the sheets when people call him. He is a big boy and has taken a few lumps along this journey.

I felt like you before my game arrived. I worried what if they go under. I'm pretty sure he is doing ok financially. Ask him over the phone if you are worried, I did. I got the reassurance I needed. Talking to Jack along the way helped calm my nerves. You have every right to be concerned about when you will get your game.

Do what you need to in order to sleep at night. It's your money, use it when YOU need it! J. G. Wentworth might help if needed!

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Chris

When you quote me in the future please don't quote only what fits your needs. Quote the entire point. You changed the context of my statement but that is what I have come to expect from a few around here. I didn't bash Stern except maybe using a little humor in the name. I like several Stern games and even own a few. My point was that I didn't think Gary answered the volume of customer calls that Jack does and how now the home collector is his bread and butter. You would only know that if you had been collecting longer than Obama has been in office. Sorry if I hurt your feelings fanboy.

I'm not a troll but that's hard to tell because I don't have as many karma points as you oh great one. I'm trying to fix that but I seem to be busy with the rest of my life and don't have time to sit at my pc day and night. HA HA HA HA HA !

Looks like my preemptive strike against the peanut gallery has shut most of them down this time. A couple made it past my BS filter but that's ok. They were much less vocal than normal.

YOYEA!!!!

Chris "low karma points" Kruger

I wonder who JoMomma was on RGP?

I think you get it. He has been lied to for the last few months and now is tired of the BS. Has nothing to do with the game, code, etc. Even with all the challenges of bringing up a new production line; that does not justify poor planning and commitment.

Sell it, let the bad taste dissipate. Buy one later (HUO or whatever) for less.

Same person

You missed the point Iowepg was making.

He said it's irrelevant in the OP's decision whether or not Jack wants him to have the game. Few would argue that Jack doesn't want to get those games delivered immediately. It is totally irrelevant.

Iowepg never mentioned anything about possibly saving a few hundred bucks (it may cost more later), nor did he mention anything about this guy buying NIB games, or being frustrated, or teased by his wife.

Iowepg stated that the OP could flip his order and buy the game later. His advice is no less valid than your advice to "just wait."

You should contact Jack personally, express your concerns to him face to face and then if you aren't satisfied with the answers then sell......

That's what i did back in April when the whole deadline drama/misleading put me over the edge and then based on what I heard and from what I've seen since, I'm good with the additional wait...

I also have THLE on order and will be a JJP customer as long as the quality continues to far exceed Stern...

I think if you propelled it at a speed just below the speed of light it should compress it.