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'Connected' Pins?

By Pinfactory2000

6 years ago


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    #23 6 years ago

    This is the one area that pinball is still in the dark ages. All premium pins should have a full online functionality. Online functionality has proven to massively increase revenue and profit. I work in console gaming and I know they are different, but the math does not lie. Updating your product post ship for free is proven to increase revenue. The entire goal is to keep you consumer playing longer and keeping them as deeply engaged as possible. There are so many easy wins in this area and I go on and on about how it works and why it works. The vocal minority will always just say it doesn't work and poke the same silly holes in it. A major key to being successful online is to learn to ignore that demographic, weed out the liars and naysayers. You do need a decent user base so Stern would make the most sense but they appear to be completely ignorant to the concepts.

    #32 6 years ago

    A very cheap camera and detect the playfield slope could solve 95% of cheating. Detect if anything intersects the outside edge of the play area and you pretty much good to go.

    Before people say what about if I take the whole machine apart and intersect all the wires and switches. I did say 95%.

    #37 6 years ago
    Quoted from snakesnsparklers:

    But that's the point. If you can't prevent cheating 100% (and you can't) then there is no point in trying to prevent 95%.

    Really this is your argument? I posted a solution I could implement in a couple of days that would keep 95% of the community honest. Nothing in life is 100% yet we still try everything. The top players in the world are all well known. Some guy starts posting high scores that doesn't belong and people are going to notice. Cheating is completely manageable. Every argument against it has been used to death they literally used to say the same shit in gaming. Turns out online is a money printing machine. I need to take my own advice and ignore the vocal minority.

    #43 6 years ago
    Quoted from snakesnsparklers:

    Yep that'y my argument. You aren't "keeping 95% of the community honest." The community is probably already 95% honest and doesn't need some crazy camera system to keep them honest. People who want to cheat will, regardless of what you try to implement against it. It's cute that you think you can solve this but you can't.

    I'm not going to continue this debate, I knew the reaction pinside would have and its a pointless discussion.

    As to what I can solve I will take the Pepsi challenge when it comes to online cheating with anyone. No system is 100% secure, yet for some reason they still lock the door at the bank.

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