BSE #750 was the prize for a raffle... so none of the options above.

Look to the past to predict the future. No spooky is selling over original msrp even the mighty tna has cooled off. Most likely rick and morty will be the same.

I think you guys are severely underestimating the truly limited nature of this machine and also the extreme popularity of the theme. Combined with one of the top 2 designers in the game (Elwin the other). I don't see this thing doing anything other than appreciating slowly over time.

Pirates is pretty flawed imo, and could possibly have another run, and look whats happening there.

You can't really compare any other Spooky titles or even modern pinball releases as a whole. We've never seen a truly (100%) limited release like this with such a popular theme/designer.

This thing is going to generate insane money on location, just for starters. Every serious operators gonna want a couple.

The deposit alone for game #680 just sold for over 3k. This game is already worth 2k over retail, and I don't see a scenario where the demand for this game goes down. Unless the game is actually mediocre, but what are the odds of that happening considering the people behind it?

When did those 2 become the top 2 designers in the game? Keith has came out with 2 nice designs and 1 was basically a copy of his homebrew but we need to see how he does once he gets to pins 3.4.5.6 and so on. Scott has tna and rick and Morty...tna is ok but nothing extraordinary (not my type of pin),and r@m no one really knows to much about yet as they just started shipping. We shall see where things go but people were paying crazy numbers for rob zombie and tna at the beginning also and you can get them at a huge discount now. We will see where things are in 6-8 months once people actually get to play the game.

I was waiting for the part where you tell me who the better designers are at the moment. I don't feel the old guard qualifies as honestly, even Wonka we've seen before in many forms.

TnA was a tremendous game-changer, despite your low opinion of it. Put spooky on the map and was a great success, especially considering its humble origins. Considering Elwin had arguably the best game last year (maiden), and the best game this year (jp), I don't know how you don't at least put him in the Top 2.

And again, i don't think you can compare a theme like rick & morty with a designer like danesi to rob zombie (crap game sorry) or tna (no theme or limit).

If they had said we're only gonna make 400 tna's, I think we'd see a similar slow appreciation value.

I believe all designer's have something great to offer for someone... people like different things. My favorite pins are wonka and di and I think the design and toys are awesome and the games are some of the best flowing and smoothest games I've ever played and owned. Many people like richie pins bc of flow . I don't believe there is a best but it is nice to see fresh ideas from the new blood but let's see how long that continues as they just started which is y they are hot at the moment.

Only game in town, considering the rest of the pinball themes from the last 5-20 years.

Completely. Love DI & Wonka as well, smooth as silk. Wonka probably my favorite from 2019 without a doubt. Lawlor & Ritchie are probably top 2 or 3 all time but was just kinda referring to the last couple of years.

Jjp

Woz less than original
Hobbit less than original
Di less than original
Potc more than original

Could be the same with Spooky fourth times the charm?

C'mon Monkey DI was totally original. And a total fail outta the gate. But WOW, what a machine.

I can’t say what other people’s machines will go for, but mine is priceless.

Yeah,Coindork,all34 of them?

I am #384 and the biggest Rick and Morty cheerleader out there. Fully optioned out (minus butter), I'll be at about $8,000 in for my pin, plus whatever tax and shipping work out to be. In 2023, I am guessing my pin will be worth about $6,500 on the second hand market... and you know... I'm okay with that. I'm not buying this pin as an investment. I have broken even or made money on (almost) all my used pins, but am not looking to turn a profit on this. Will I make money on this one? Probably not. Will I have an amount of fun equal to or greater than the amount of money I spend on this? Yes! If I averaged jus 10 minutes a day having fun with this machine for 3 years, my fun would cost me about $10 an hour. If I went to a bar to play pinball, would I come away spending more or less? Would I get to go as much? My pinball/arcade fun time is from 0530-0600 every morning... will I find a bar with those hours that has pins? If I dropped $2,000 on a new computer or TV... what would it be worth in 3 years?

Long story short, I'm pretty sure this pin will still be worth $6,500 plus in 3 years. Would I spend $2,000 for 3 years worth of fun? Yes! What other toys can you buy that do that?

You can't have a conjecture poll 18 months into the future without putting in an option for the bubble bursting due to the impending recession and all machines selling for pennies in the dollar

No way. Rick and Morty and Spooky are immune to the next depression and other sicknesses from China.

You will be waiting a while if you choose the later.

I would definitely agree with Keith, but I would put Eric ahead of Scott. What he did with JJP Pirates, especially for a first outing was amazing and dwarfs the effort of a modern take on a system 7 game IMHO.

When looking at projected sale value and potential earnings, you have to take the past into effect in my opinion. No Spooky games have ever appreciated in value, in fact a game like Zombie is hard to give away at rock bottom prices. That and Spooky games historically are not great earners, cost a premium over a Stern Pro and are more of a pain to keep running in location environment. I know of only one op locally here that is in on Rick and Morty and that is because he is on everything. Obviously there can be a first time for everything, but right or wrong, no other ops here have any interest in operating a Spooky game.

The final BSE is #711 ( PinBackpacker ). #749 is a Standard Edition ( floyd1977 ).

The standard edition of every JJP game is also the most rare version but that doesn't seem to bolster the price.

Rick and Morty has something no other game from any manufacturer has... Rick and Morty!

I think Monkey meant DI is now selling less than original MSRP.

Presumably from the polling done on Pinsiders in the other thread. There were 16 Standard Editions claimed.

STANDARDS (16 owned)
712
717
719
721
722
724
725
727
729
733
736
737
739
740
745
749

Yup. You're right my guy.
aannnddd......VODKA!

Maybe you can start a new poll for #748 because #749 isn't going anywhere.

No. I know at least one distributor (mine) that didn't assign Standards to numbers above all the BSEs, because their allotment had no numbers above #560 or so. But I think it's pretty safe to say that there are going to be only 10% or so Standards out there when this is over.

Extreme popularity?
Never seen a release like this?
Insane money in location?

Jesus. Sounds like you need to settle down a bit, we have like 14 years to go until all of these precious machines are actually produced...

standard #546 reporting for duty, but yes it will be built at the tail end of everything

We understand the intent, regardless of Conehead semantics.

At the end of the day it’s just a pin. Timing turned out horrible through no fault of their own. Spooky Or someone else will release another hit theme and the cycle will start again. No offense to Anyone but R&M is ok, not great, but immersive and fun. Not feeling any overwhelming magic on it. Results and opinions may vary. Contents packed by weight, not volume. Batteries not included.

Standard #628 here.

I paid $2K over MSRP for 740 so they’re out there.

How many where made ..?

750

This game is very special the theme is awesome and call outs really put it over the top! I always tell people that there is more to this game than the sum of its parts and after they play it, they get it. No matter how bad of a day I’m having or how scary of medical news I’m waiting on, when I play a game of Rick and Morty I Forget about my problems and I’m always laughing as I play.
Mine will never leave my house as I have already willed it to my daughter.

R&M game #1

Forever grateful to the Spooky team!

Amazing what happened over the last two years .. who knows the the next two years will t bring

Well... they are going for $12,500 - $13,000 now used so...

Not true. I couldn’t move mine for $10k (basically what I had into it) locally several months back. Ended up selling it off to route.

Had some offers from Germany but I didn’t wanna deal with that. I suppose I could’ve just sat for a while until a buyer came along, but after two weeks or so I just gave up.

That was a different market than todays market.