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Congo Vs Popeye

By PinFever

6 months ago


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    “Rather have a Congo or popeye if given to you free and price of game mattered not say both were worth 6k ”

    • I will take a Congo Free ty 56 votes
      81%
    • I will take Popeye Free ty 11 votes
      16%
    • I will donate it to charity i like neither 2 votes
      3%

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    #1 6 months ago

    Ok, So i have an issue with the Top 100 and i know others do.
    Also have an issue on pricing in todays market and so do others .
    Gameplay , Rarity , Supply and demand , Callouts , modes, code , amount of balls in the game including amount in a multiball and how my/your own opinion on the games Title/Topic are all factors in to the pricing method maybe i missed some points .
    This said i would rather have a Popeye Ranked 258 (wtf) at the Cheaper price and lower on the top 100 list than a Congo way high in price and higher up on the ranking at 66 .
    Why you ask . I do not like congo . I do not like the lower playfield and do not like all the kickout holes. Love the ramps and volcano , that is it .
    I do like popeye way mre and feel it even a deeper game by far. Way far .
    One of the most fun Upper playfields i a game as apposed to lower playfield on Congo .
    hell i have even more fun just diverting the ball into the correct animal on the left side boat loading area .
    So wanted to see a poll on Congo Vs Popeye to judge the Thoughts of pinsiders who have played both . With so many more in the hobby and changes in gameplay over the years the ratings may change

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    #2 6 months ago

    It's not even remotely close for me. Between the two, Congo.

    My biggest complaints with Popeye is that the big boat hull takes up a good portion of the playfield, and the ball gets concealed from view quite a bit.

    #3 6 months ago

    Congo rules.
    Who cares about the ratings.
    Play/buy what you like.

    #4 6 months ago

    Same feelings here, I'll always pick Congo over Popeye. Ball is obstructed from view 50% of the game for Popeye. Shadow has a deeper ruleset that Congo, and they made 4X as many Shadows, so Shadows are always cheaper and a better option in my opinion.

    #5 6 months ago

    I really like Congo, would buy one if I found one for an ok price.

    Popeye on the other hand is a smelling turd I would never own.

    #6 6 months ago

    Congo over Popeye, but Congo is overrated and overpriced.

    #7 6 months ago

    Same on Congo middle to Back part of playfield

    Quoted from ForceFlow:

    It's not even remotely close for me. Between the two, Congo.
    My biggest complaints with Popeye is that the big boat hull takes up a good portion of the playfield, and the ball gets concealed from view quite a bit.

    Quoted from Isjack:

    Congo rules.
    Who cares about the ratings.
    Play/buy what you like.

    I do not care about rating i have my own ratings as do you and others opinions as well from countless players but do see Popeye getting crapped on.

    Love the shadow Shadow is better than these two for sure .

    #8 6 months ago

    I like Popeye more than most people, but Congo all day long.

    #9 6 months ago

    I have both in my collection. Would rather play Popeye over Congo.

    Popeye has a more traditional rule structure with modes. Popeye’s upper playfield is better than Congo’s lower playfield. Congo has the more traditional playfield layout.

    Popeye gets better if you install Pinball Life translucent animal ramp. Popeye also gets better if you are less than 6 foot tall. At 6’ or taller the lower pf becomes even more blocked, especially with 3D Bluto.

    #10 6 months ago

    If its free will take both but most likely see one sold/trade for a better game. In less this Popeye Saves the Earth is better now after the last many other times i have played before. The theme gets me to keep trying but i just not seeing it.
    This is why the top 100 is only suggestion because i just checked top 100 and in top 10 already not fans of 2 of them but yes i will keep trying them.

    #11 6 months ago

    Amy is way prettier than Olive oil.

    #12 6 months ago
    Quoted from Ozzy:

    Amy is way prettier than Olive oil.

    “Amy good gorilla...human woman ugly”

    #13 6 months ago
    Quoted from bluespin:

    Same feelings here, I'll always pick Congo over Popeye. Ball is obstructed from view 50% of the game for Popeye. Shadow has a deeper ruleset that Congo, and they made 4X as many Shadows, so Shadows are always cheaper and a better option in my opinion.

    Have you seen my Congo “mind map”? It’s actually deeper than most people think, and it’s easy enough that an average player can experience the whole rule set. I also never got the hang of the upper playfield in Shadow, though I can’t claim that Congo’s lower playfield is any better. Interestingly, Tim Curry is in both pins. I like his character callouts in Congo better.

    #14 6 months ago
    Quoted from PinFever:

    Ok, So i have an issue with the Top 100 and i know others do.
    Also have an issue on pricing in todays market and so do others .
    Gameplay , Rarity , Supply and demand , Callouts , modes, code , amount of balls in the game including amount in a multiball and how my/your own opinion on the games Title/Topic are all factors in to the pricing method maybe i missed some points .
    This said i would rather have a Popeye Ranked 258 (wtf) at the Cheaper price and lower on the top 100 list than a Congo way high in price and higher up on the ranking at 66 .
    Why you ask . I do not like congo . I do not like the lower playfield and do not like all the kickout holes. Love the ramps and volcano , that is it .
    I do like popeye way mre and feel it even a deeper game by far. Way far .
    One of the most fun Upper playfields i a game as apposed to lower playfield on Congo .
    hell i have even more fun just diverting the ball into the correct animal on the left side boat loading area .
    So wanted to see a poll on Congo Vs Popeye to judge the Thoughts of pinsiders who have played both . With so many more in the hobby and changes in gameplay over the years the ratings may change

    I've owned both and I've had them when it was "uncool" to have a Congo before people actually played it and realized it was a good game and they shot up in value. I actually liked both and regret selling them both but they had to go for $$$ and space at the time. If I had to pick between the two, I would pick Congo. It's a more overall complete game IMHO. That said, I don't think Congo is worth $4k+, nor do I think Popeye is as terrible as many people say it is. Personally, I wouldn't pick either of them up at today's prices, but I would gladly take either for free.

    #15 6 months ago

    Where’s the love for Gilligan’s Island? Now that’s a fun game, and I’ve only seen one in 20 years (at a show).

    #16 6 months ago
    Quoted from swampfire:

    ...I’ve only seen one in 20 years (at a show).

    That's why you think it's fun. You haven't played one often. Gilligan's Island is the most shallow DMD game around. With a couple good bounces you could get to the wizard mode in a dozen FLIPS. It's super shallow, has horribly unbalanced scoring and a pointless MB that you can only get as a random award. It's fun to drop a few quarters in when you see one on route (every 20 years) but it would be terrible to own...especially in a small collection.

    #17 6 months ago

    LOL I didn't think this was a serious thread. Congo. Not even close

    #18 6 months ago

    Congo is blah. Nothing but a bunch of disconnected modes, a boring LPF that is best won by flailing, and a wizard mode that is just the regular multiball but worth more points. Only real redeeming quality is the music. Oh, and the volcano barfing balls all over the playfield after the deflection tab breaks off.

    Had it, sold it, don't miss it at all.

    #19 6 months ago
    Quoted from metallik:

    , a boring LPF that is best won by flailing,

    Correct, you must become the gorilla. I like to slap the flipper buttons like I’m hitting that obelisk in 2001, a Space Oddysey. Gorilla noises also help.

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    #20 6 months ago

    Congo has to much stopping of play , has to have the most kickout holes on any game .
    Well Even with the Blocked view it flows better and i do not feel you need the view as the light rows shows you the angle of the shot you need . Way more fun on popeye and this is a serious debate .
    Well Seems Cong is going to pull this off even though it is just some good ramp shots and volcano as opposed to the journey of popeye saving the day and the earth . this planet is doomed

    And honestly . Which was more to make ? Popeye was a superpin , Congo was not

    #21 6 months ago

    lmao become the Gorilla

    Quoted from swampfire:Correct, you must become the gorilla. I like to slap the flipper buttons like I’m hitting that obelisk in 2001, a Space Odyssey. Gorilla noises also help.

    #22 6 months ago
    Quoted from PinFever:

    Congo has to much stopping of play , has to have the most kickout holes on any game .

    That's not inherently a bad thing...but, clearly you're a flowhoe....and you like what you like. That's OK. You're not gonna convince people to prefer Popeye if they don't.

    #23 6 months ago

    Did anyone 10 yrs ago ever think someone would be calling out Congo as an overpriced game. LolL. Congo all day. It is a fun game which won’t last long in most people’s collection as it will get old. But the volcano shot between the pops is the greatest in all pinball.

    Popeye. Ugh. Upper playfield that blocks view. Terrible theme and sounds. Turned down a HUO for $800 12 years ago after many plays trying to convince myself it was fun and worth it. No thanks.

    #24 6 months ago

    Congo actually has the best flow of any of my pins. You’re not supposed to blindly shoot the saucers when they aren’t lit. If we’re just going by size, then Hercules is the greatest game ever made.

    Apes together strong!

    Quoted from PinFever:

    Congo has to much stopping of play , has to have the most kickout holes on any game .
    Well Even with the Blocked view it flows better and i do not feel you need the view as the light rows shows you the angle of the shot you need . Way more fun on popeye and this is a serious debate .
    Well Seems Cong is going to pull this off even though it is just some good ramp shots and volcano as opposed to the journey of popeye saving the day and the earth . this planet is doomed
    And honestly . Which was more to make ? Popeye was a superpin , Congo was not

    #25 6 months ago
    Quoted from PBFan:

    Did anyone 10 yrs ago ever think someone would be calling out Congo as an overpriced game. LolL.

    All games are overpriced now. I was surprised more by the "Congo is overrated" myself. People talk about it so little it's like it doesn't even exist. When it comes up around here I'm like "Oh yeah, Congo, forgot about that one".

    #26 6 months ago
    Quoted from PinFever:

    lmao become the Gorilla

    You obviously haven’t met John...

    #27 6 months ago

    congo, not even close.

    #28 6 months ago

    I actually like Congo's theme because nobody ever heard of the movie. You never see that flick run on basic cable TV. If I had one I could pretend it is an unlicensed theme about some scientists and gorillas in the jungle. It's like The Shadow with an alternate translite and no giant Alec Baldwin mug reminding you it was licensed from a totally forgotten film.

    #29 6 months ago

    Well i guess even after the Corona Virus and more and more people playing more pinball it has not changed the View of this Crazy hobby in where a Deep Fun as hell Superpin based on Popeye which is more known then the Congo Movie and could not beat out a Game about a Grey Gorilla . Well Who has a Popeye cheap for sale ?

    #30 6 months ago

    Amy says CONGO

    #31 6 months ago

    The music and callouts in Congo give me a ZEN experience all day long. Popeye was not awesome the few times I've played it.

    That being said, Congo's price is ridiculous. So I'll never own one, unless I luck until a deal.

    #32 6 months ago

    'Popeye' and 'Superpin'. I can't say those two words together without stuttering.

    #33 6 months ago

    At the same price? Congo.

    At current market prices? Popeye is the much better value.

    #34 6 months ago

    I really enjoyed Congo when I had it. Mine was minty and shot great.

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    #36 6 months ago

    why not. Look at all the stuff in it .
    by today's standards that is a JJp build and would be 10k to us idiots with bottomless wallets just like a STTNG .
    With the New Sterns just look at Led Zep and what you get . Virtually Nothing . So yes Popeye ,Judge Dred/Demolitionman/ all superpins and loaded to the rim with goodies are superpins to me.

    Quoted from frenchmarky:

    'Popeye' and 'Superpin'. I can't say those two words together without stuttering.

    #37 6 months ago

    I admire your commitment, but this is the strangest and most arbitrary "fight" i've seen in a long time.

    Enjoy your Popeye.

    #38 6 months ago
    Quoted from PinFever:

    by today's standards that is a JJp build and would be 10k...

    Oh man this old chestnut.
    So would RCT

    #39 6 months ago

    I would take almost any pinball machine for free... but I feel kinda meh from both titles... I would have asked it this way-

    If somebody dropped both of these machines off free at your doorstep, which one would you pay the most to get hauled away? Now that is a hard question.

    #40 6 months ago

    The protip here is to get a nice Popeye for cheap, THEN start hyping it up here.

    In 2 years Demo Man will be a 5k game. Popeye will scale up along with it when people take another look at what’s affordable and everything moves up again.

    #41 6 months ago
    Quoted from roffels:

    I admire your commitment, but this is the strangest and most arbitrary "fight" i've seen in a long time.
    Enjoy your Popeye.

    Agreed. I really don't get this thread.

    #42 6 months ago

    Roller coaster Tycoon, What
    I had one, Nothing in that game . A Doll with some crazy hair

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