Sweet. I'm just gonna walk in unannounced if you don't invite me over.

I have no "hype interest", as I don't really care about zombies or this show...but it's a Borg/Lyman game so of course I want to play it!

Doesn't matter that they're both TV shows - totally different genres & audiences. Sure CSI may have great ratings, but it was never "cool" or important in pop culture. The audience that tunes in for CSI ever week doesn't really care about pinball. Walking Dead, on the other hand - is the "zombie/horror" genre, which was "cool" before the show and will be cool after the show. The audience definitely has more gamers than CSI's audience. Zombies are part of the pop culture landscape. Crime scene shows? Eh, not really. Maybe Dexter for 4 seasons. Zombies are "generic" enough that The Walking Dead theme will not feel dated like other TV themes could.

He didn't work on ST or Mustang....so - yeah, he's up to bat.

I agree, but zombies have been popular since the 60's. The horror genre has a huge pop culture following....the type of following that COLLECTS things. That's the difference between this and CSI. No one collected CSI stuff. No one goes to CSI conventions. You watched it and you were done with it.

...and seriously, CSI was never cool lol. Maybe cool's the wrong word...no one "geeked out" over CSI. People are NUTS about Walking Dead. Seriously, my ex - who has no money, loves walking dead so much, will save every last penny and buy this pin lol.

If the amount you "lose" when selling is the same on either model, just go all out and go LE

That's why they make a Premium. They can make as many of them as they can sell. They have all the gameplay features of the LE. If you miss out on an LE and it skyrockets in price - you can get a Premium and be just as happy.

Stern will never make 1000 LEs. 500 is the magic number, give or take.

It was a reaction to the instant Metallica LE sellout and the crying that followed. …but, that was Metallica - ST was never going to be the frenzy Met was. However, if they sold 799 - then hey…good for them.

You don't know that. It could be based on the TV show *and* be hand drawn style.

Borg is clearly a proponent of hand drawn art, as evidenced by his last 2 games. X-Men & Metallica.

They did sell 799 STLE's (enough of that rumor that they didn't)….but they didn't sell even close to 500 Mustang LEs (and probably won't). The LE number tends to fluctuate up and down based on the last LE.

What you've read from you and Rob? LOL…you're the only ones skeptical about Stern making 799. Sell through, OK…if distribs still have some, they still have some. That's logical.

Again, STLE's units got bumped up because of the crazy fast sellout of METLE & the backlash that came with it. Perhaps Steve's rep with AC/DC LE came into play as well. Now we just had Mustang LE bomb....they're going back to more conservative/realistic numbers with this one.

I have a trusted source that has told me that all 799 STLE's have been built. Unless you have a source that says otherwise, sorry - I can't go with the Ice/Rob speculation, which seems to be fueled by the fact that you guys bought it, disliked it, sold it.

I have to imagine that in order for the game to be energetic and fun, the tone of the game will be more generic "KILL THE ZOMBIES" in tone than literally following drama and arcs from the show. Maybe it will have some interesting rules regarding survivors...If you don't hit certain shots or do a certain task in time, someone will die. Maybe too many dead people will affect your points or bonuses. That could be interesting....decreasing values based on less survivors. Maybe you can find more survivors to gain back multipliers or whatever.

***PURELY SPECULATION***

The MSRP you see listed is ~$1000 higher than the "real" price you'll get from Pinside friendly distributors.

Some LEs sell out fast, some don't. Even the ones that do (METLE, Hulk), you can find them after the fact. Some people get into the pre-order frenzy cuz they're afraid the game will be the next Tron LE or AC/DC LE (the two LEs that went apeshit in price after they sold out).

If this game doesn't have a Premium (like Tron) …could be a quick sell out from distribs and speculators gobbling them up.

I prob didn't answer your question…it's a crapshoot lol

X-Men didn't have a Premium.

They display won't do anything to change pinball's audience. I've said this before - to a young gamer, the thought of going to an arcade all the time to play games is outdated. They have all the games they want on their phones, tablets, computers and consoles. The only way pinball gets "saved" by the young generation is if the arcade in general has some massive overhaul that brings people out in droves. That's not likely to happen...innovation in coin-op is expensive, which makes coin-op equipment expensive....it's just way too much of a gamble for equipment manufacturers and operators. That's why you see the "same old " light gun games, racers, and yes - pinballs. They're all doing what they can to survive in an obsolete industry. Color displays on a pinball won't change anything. Would it be cool - of course! Game changer. No. The DESTINATION has to change. It's slowly happening with successful barcades...but that's for adults. Something about the arcade itself has to change that will make kids/teens want to go again. Pinball can then benefit from that. Pinball itself won't be the change factor.