(Topic ID: 249560)

Complete primer failure


By yaksplat

6 months ago



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    #1 6 months ago

    I'm trying to figure out what happened. My cabinet is sanded to 120 grit, primed with kilz, odorless original oil based primer.

    Then sanded to 220 grit, fully tack clothed and sprayed with latex interior paint. I was just removing some tape and portions are coming off to bare wood.

    I'm trying to figure out what happened, and how to go forward with this mess.

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    #2 6 months ago

    Oil based paints are very unpredictable.
    The odorless is a bad choice unfortunately because the less toxic the less bite and adhesion you can expect.

    Latex is also not ideal over it if the solvents have not fully evaporated it will smother them and create these types of issues.

    Oil on oil is good if sticking with these types of paints.

    I would sand it back down.

    Apply regular Kiltz let that set a few days.

    Sand that then apply another oil based paint for color.

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    #3 6 months ago

    Unfortunately NY has made all oil based paints illegal. I think this odorless oil based is probably some compromise. Then i'm only left with latex for a top coat.

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    #4 6 months ago
    Quoted from yaksplat:

    Unfortunately NY has made all oil based paints illegal.

    Ouch!

    #5 6 months ago

    Look into PPG Breakthrough paint. Super durable latex, sticks to almost anything, and u can spray thru hvlp gun

    #6 6 months ago
    Quoted from Jjsmooth:

    Look into PPG Breakthrough paint. Super durable latex, sticks to almost anything, and u can spray thru hvlp gun

    Should I still use a primer?

    #7 6 months ago

    Although I’ve never repainted a pin, I’ve used this many times when painting cabinets that are varnished. I even painted laminate with this as the base. The longer it cures the harder and stronger it will be. It’s very durable.

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    #8 6 months ago

    Drive out of state for real paint.

    #9 6 months ago
    Quoted from yaksplat:

    Unfortunately NY has made all oil based paints illegal. I think this odorless oil based is probably some compromise. Then i'm only left with latex for a top coat.

    Are you sure about that? You can probably buy oil base in quarts that is defined as for metal or industrial use, but can be used on wood too. I’d look and see - as I’m pretty sure that rustoleum is one off the top of my head, though I’m unsure if they have a base that is able to be tinted. Lowe’s/Home Depot maybe check there first.

    #10 6 months ago

    Stripped the entire cabinet

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    #11 6 months ago

    Get yourself a urethane primer. They are still available across the country

    #12 6 months ago
    Quoted from yaksplat:

    Unfortunately NY has made all oil based paints illegal.

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    Never live in NY state- got it. Thanks for the heads up.

    #13 6 months ago
    Quoted from yaksplat:

    Unfortunately NY has made all oil based paints illegal.

    https://www.pnpcraftsmen.com/blog/Can-I-still-paint-in-oil-based-paints-in-New-York
    ..."oil based paints that meet the VOC restrictions are permitted to be used. This means for the most part that the oil based paints are sold in quarts."

    #14 6 months ago
    Quoted from YeOldPinPlayer:

    "oil based paints that meet the VOC restrictions"

    Those VOC restrictions have also been lowered.

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    #15 6 months ago

    Did you go over it with a tact-rag after sanding? The oder-less oil primer never seem.to do what they are intended to do very well. Try on a sample piece first. You can try thinning the killz down a little or try a alcohol based primer.

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    #16 5 months ago

    The paints can't be sold in the state, but I'm sure Amazon can ship you some.

    #17 5 months ago
    Quoted from yaksplat:

    Those VOC restrictions have also been lowered.[quoted image]

    So glad to live in Alaska.

    #18 5 months ago

    Everyone should be glad to not live in the socialist republic of NY

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