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Comet LED 555 shorting our 1980s Bally Solid States

By pookycade

6 years ago


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    #1 6 years ago

    So I purchased a bunch of comet LEDs for my EBD, centaur, Pacman. But I’m getting really unhappy here. 44s are fine and the bulbs themselves no problems. But getting these damn 555s inserted into sockets is a nightmare. They are not the right size. I’ve aready blown up the connector on my lamp board due to these in my EBD and against my better judgement just shorted out my Centaur GI. People need to beware. I believe I will be sending back. I should add I’m not some neophyte here. I’ve shopped out over 30 games with other bulbs and never had this problem. When you insert a bulb it literally shouldn’t almost push in the entire socket. Thank you comet for just making my life more difficult not simplified.

    #10 6 years ago
    Quoted from wamonkey:

    I bought a bunch of 555's from Comet for an Elektra and I had a heck of a time with them as well and I like the original post have shopped numerous games and never had this hard of a time.
    It was something unique to the Comet 555 and 80's solid state games - supper hard insertion and removal. I thought the same - there has to be something wrong with the Comet 555's. I made them work but it was NOT easy.

    Glad to see I’m not the only one here. I just did my backbox on EBD and fried one of my connectors so bad I have to repin the entire thing.

    You literally have to push and shove and even then it doesn’t go in. Unless you like shorted electronics do not use comet 555s in Bally 80s games. It’s a disaster and just cost me more than the cost of the LEDs in time, new lamp board, and frustration. You have been warned

    #11 6 years ago
    Quoted from Phat_Jay:

    Did you contact comet? They are well known for helping pinsiders.

    Comet has good customer service. And their LEDs are good in general However their 555 LEDs do not fit in Centaur, Pacman, EBD sockets.

    #13 6 years ago
    Quoted from o-din:

    I guess the logical solution would be to put the correct bulbs back in and stop fiddle fking around with this other crap.

    Yep going there right now

    #34 6 years ago
    Quoted from Greg-at-Comet:

    This sounds incredibly frustrating, and we're looking into it. That being said, please reach out to us with any problems you might be having with any of our products. If we don't know there's a problem we can't fix it. I'm always happy to help in any way I can. Just shoot me an email at [email protected], and we can work together to come up with a solution.

    I did reach out to Ryan on Monday. Let him know I bought a couple of other brands of 555s. He told me to tell you how that works out. So yes I told you. No you didn’t really do anything about it.

    #35 6 years ago
    Quoted from 85vett:

    I know your just trying to be condescending here but he's talking about the OP if it wasn't obvious.
    Couple major mistakes caused this. Two simple steps would have prevented the unfortunate situation of damaged boards vs just a refund request.
    1. Never force electronics.
    2. Change bulbs with power off. Not popular but I do it that way all the time after I saw a friend short something by dropping a screw.

    Look if you sell bulbs that you are calling 555s and they don’t fit then whose damn fault is that. 1) they went in but you have to push really hard 2) it was all done with power off. 3) it blew up after power turned back on 4) I was sold a bulb that I was told was a 555 when it is most definitely NOT a 555 since a real 555 bulb actually fits in the socket 5) forgive me for sharing my stupidity to try to save other from doing the same 6) that whole glass houses thing ...

    #37 6 years ago
    Quoted from Jjsmooth:

    Original are glass (smooth) where they slide in. Leds arent. Not just Comets, most any are super tight on old Bally's.. Usually they just won't work.. I'm guessing he pushed hard enough to short one or two out.. Stick a large flat blade screwdriver in the socket first and give a twist..helps a bunch.

    That was my next step that and also short testing with my multimeter on every socket before I try to turn in again. And yes it’s does help for sure

    #38 6 years ago
    Quoted from Whysnow:

    pookycade can you please answer the above?
    I honestly still cant understand exactly HOW you possibly shorted out your game by installing any LED properly? I seriously just used comet LEDs in my EBD a few weeks back and not a single issue. I took my time, had the game off and any tighter sockets I made sure to open up slightly and move slowly without force. It really was not tough to do with the game off and I think maybe 3 total tight sockets.
    Genuinely not understanding how it is even possible? A few photos would be great.

    Honestly I can’t figure it out entirely either. But essentially I shorted one or more of the controlled lamps in the backbox. Usually that takes out what, maybe one or two lamp board transistors. So it’s perplexing for sure. But there is no question that no issues prior to insertion, completely shorted after, short causing enough heat to melt. Odd for sure. Will post pictures later once I dig further into the connector rebuilds

    #41 6 years ago

    “The end user may sometimes use some extra force to try to make things fit because he might think he's bought a quality product that has already undergone inspection that it is the correct size.“

    ^ THAT. Thank you !

    -8
    #44 6 years ago
    Quoted from Whysnow:

    Guessing you criss-crossed the LED light wires and shorted across it the actual bulb? Do you bend wires out before install? I find that to be a good trick to avoid shorting out

    I did do that but I suspect in the mashing into the socket I either a) shorted the actual socket or b) RE criss crossed the wires.

    I’m really not blaming anyone here. Made a mistake. Paid for it. Letting other know what happened so they don’t repeat.

    And all comet had to do here was to say they would put some disclaimer there. Or maybe do some testing themselves. But no, they go after me with a “shame on you for not telling us instead of dragging our name into the mud on pinside”. Well actually given this thread I’m damn happy I did and if it results in less sales for them then good.

    #46 6 years ago
    Quoted from Whysnow:

    so did you have to use brut force to install these bulbs?

    Brute force - NO
    Quite a bit more force than a real 555 - YES

    #49 6 years ago
    Quoted from Whysnow:

    that is a pretty shitty attitude and honestly I think you have read their post wrongly.
    Both Ryan and his employee have been very cordial and are known for great customer service.
    I understand that you are pissed you made a mistake and your screw up (sorry but you are the one forcefully jamming the bulb in a socket), but reaching out 3 days ago and telling them you were going to get back to them after trying other bulbs, then trying to roast them on here before getting back to them is not a very nice way to go about it.
    It honestly sounds like user error. Some incandescent sockets are tight, you have admitted that using a screw driver to loosen them is a good thing to try, but in this case you jammed in a bulb and messed up your game. The bulb is obviously not the issue here; as I noted I just used the same bulbs in the same game a few weeks back without issue.

    To each their own. People can go do whatever the hell they want as far as I am concerned. I’m really not sure why anybody posts threads here anymore since anything that has more than 2 responses turns into a giant crapfest.

    I told people bulbs don’t easily fit - not a supposition but a fact

    I told people that if they push too hard they will likely snort something so buyer beware.

    Comet says - we can’t fix anything if you don’t let us know about it. I let them know about it.

    Comet has “great customer service”. Not doubting that- but in this instance NOT or they would have never made that post.

    Look if you want just personally go after me as seems to be what you do in most threads- or defend whoever you feel like defending on a given day - also a trend I note with you posts then go right ahead. Free country.

    If by doing so you wish to shame me into some other frame of mind - ain’t gonna happen.

    #57 6 years ago
    Quoted from chuckwurt:

    Did my EBD with 100% comet bulbs with zero issues. Can someone explain how a bad bulb can short a bulb socket? I’m not following.
    I’ve definitely had some stubborn 555 sockets. But it was not limited to any era. All 555 sockets are tough to get leds in.
    But as my dad always says, “don’t force it.”

    Well I guess the net conclusion everyone wants to draw from this is that I’m just an idiot, the bulbs are the right size, and that having to push on these harder than others (despite having shopped two EBD, two Pacman, among others all with same sockets using other manufacturers LEDs) is just my imagination.

    Ok pinside you win. I’m out

    #60 6 years ago

    Gone. This why we can’t have nice things.

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