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Comet Club - Admit One

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#901 3 years ago
Quoted from Clizifer:

do you still have the image file? id love to print one out for my machine

I can not distribute.

#902 3 years ago
Quoted from Mr_Tantrum:

I cap not distribute.

ok...

#903 3 years ago
Quoted from Mr_Tantrum:

From me before PPS told me I couldn't make them anymore.

Wow, that's a shame. Your cards are top notch. Glad I got my set for my Comet when I did!

#904 3 years ago
Quoted from panthera:

Hi, I just installed my PinScore and found this ... bug? I traced out the schematics which seem to be:
comma 1+2: CPU board C54 to connector 1J3-10 to 10749 connector 4J10-10
comma 3+4: CPU board C55 to connector 1J3-11 to 10749 connector 4J10-11
I metered both lines out and they go to the correct places. I guess I could try switching them. Has anyone tried or been successful in fixing this?

FYI, if anyone runs into this, just swap the wires on 4J10-10 and 4J10-11, commas work like a champ after that!

#905 3 years ago
Quoted from panthera:

FYI, if anyone runs into this, just swap the wires on 4J10-10 and 4J10-11, commas work like a champ after that!

Thanks! I'll give that a try and report back. The game is at my mom's, so I might take a bit.

#906 3 years ago
Quoted from panthera:

FYI, if anyone runs into this, just swap the wires on 4J10-10 and 4J10-11, commas work like a champ after that!

That did the trick, thanks again! Now just need to pick up a couple ribbon cables to take care of some ghosting.

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#907 3 years ago

Does anyone know who sells a replacement lockdown bar receiver that fits Comet? Mine is shitty. The one pinballlife sells (below) fit my sys 11 Pinbot like a glove, but they are not sure it will fit sys 9. Maybe not.

https://www.pinballlife.com/williamsbally-lockdown-bar-lever-guide-receiver-assembly-wpcwpc-95.html

#908 3 years ago

Yeah, those cards are cool!

#909 3 years ago
Quoted from IdahoRealtor:

Does anyone know who sells a replacement lockdown bar receiver that fits Comet? Mine is shitty. The one pinballlife sells (below) fit my sys 11 Pinbot like a glove, but they are not sure it will fit sys 9. Maybe not.
https://www.pinballlife.com/williamsbally-lockdown-bar-lever-guide-receiver-assembly-wpcwpc-95.html

I can tell you that System 9 and 11 are different, but only by the location of the mounting holes.

#910 3 years ago

Funny enough, I started this thread 5 years ago, then sold my Comet maybe a year later. Fast forward and I just picked up my 2nd Comet over the weekend and was looking for a Comet group. Deja Vu!

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#911 3 years ago
Quoted from dmieczko:

Mine does not have "COMET" below the door. I think that's pretty rare.

Mine has Comet below the coin door, but no fireballs/flames on each side. Maybe they were painted over?

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#912 3 years ago

First Pin picked up a Comet two weeks ago so far love the game. And have done a few fixes already.

First I had a light not working found diode was in backwards wonder if this light never worked? looked to have all the same numbers as other diodes just installed backwards flipped it and the light now works.

Also had a burnt TIP122 that i fixed. robbed Q85 to replace Q83 and replaced the coil and all is back to working.

couple of questions

1. where can i get the "1 Million sign" at the back of the cycle ramp mine is competently missing. There is one on Ebay but its missing the housing that covers the bulbs. anyone have a spare that they are willing to part with?

2. anyone ever order the translite form EBay ebay.com link: WILLIAMS comet pinball machine backglass translite replacement my backglass seams faded but you tell me does it look too bad?

Thanks for any help !

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#913 3 years ago
Quoted from Comet_20:

First Pin picked up a Comet two weeks ago so far love the game. And have done a few fixes already.
First I had a light not working found diode was in backwards wonder if this light never worked? looked to have all the same numbers as other diodes just installed backwards flipped it and the light now works.
Also had a burnt TIP122 that i fixed. robbed Q85 to replace Q83 and replaced the coil and all is back to working.
couple of questions
1. where can i get the "1 Million sign" at the back of the cycle ramp mine is competently missing. There is one on Ebay but its missing the housing that covers the bulbs. anyone have a spare that they are willing to part with?
2. anyone ever order the translite form EBay ebay.com link » Williams Comet Pinball Machine Backglass Translite Replacement my backglass seams faded but you tell me does it look too bad?
Thanks for any help !
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Welcome to the club Comet is a great pin.

BGResto just got a good one to scan and can reproduce something better than a translite.

#914 3 years ago

Welcome to the Comet club!

Are there LEDs behind your backglass? They do seem to wash things out on the Comet. Mine came with LEDs and I ended up replacing them with 47s, looks much better.

#915 3 years ago
Quoted from jaytrem:

Welcome to the Comet club!
Are there LEDs behind your backglass? They do seem to wash things out on the Comet. Mine came with LEDs and I ended up replacing them with 47s, looks much better.

Warn white led's look much better.

#916 3 years ago
Quoted from jaytrem:

Welcome to the Comet club!
Are there LEDs behind your backglass? They do seem to wash things out on the Comet. Mine came with LEDs and I ended up replacing them with 47s, looks much better.

Mine had LEDs when I got it I changed them for 47's looks much better this was the before image.

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#917 3 years ago
Quoted from Jason43:

Warn white led's look much better.

I did manage to grab a new backglass, so no fade. Figured I'd try some warm whites at some point.

#918 3 years ago
Quoted from Comet_20:

1. where can i get the "1 Million sign" at the back of the cycle ramp mine is competently missing. There is one on Ebay but its missing the housing that covers the bulbs. anyone have a spare that they are willing to part with?

I believe that I have one. Let me check.

#919 3 years ago
Quoted from yaksplat:

I believe that I have one. Let me check.

Thank you for checking!

#920 3 years ago
Quoted from jaytrem:

I did manage to grab a new backglass, so no fade. Figured I'd try some warm whites at some point.

Was it a repo Backglass I’m looking for one.

#921 3 years ago
Quoted from Matthew2000tx:

Was it a repo Backglass I’m looking for one.

No, sorry. Was old but probably never used.

#922 3 years ago
Quoted from jaytrem:

That did the trick, thanks again! Now just need to pick up a couple ribbon cables to take care of some ghosting.
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Hey Jay were these the displays from Marco. I hsve a replacement set from him and the commas don't work on mine. Was wondering if this trick would work to fix mine as well.

#923 3 years ago

Mine came with the machine, so not sure where they were purchased. The brand is Pinscore. I know some of the Pinscores have a jumper that lets you turn the commas on and off. See post 453 in this thread.

#924 3 years ago
Quoted from jaytrem:

Mine came with the machine, so not sure where they were purchased. The brand is Pinscore. I know some of the Pinscores have a jumper that lets you turn the commas on and off. See post 453 in this thread.

Seems like I checked mine back when that was posted and I don't recall mine having that jumper. I will check again who knows I might have been half in the bag when I checked. It's very annoying not having the commas show up. Thx

#925 3 years ago
Quoted from PinDeLaPin:

Hey Jay were these the displays from Marco. I hsve a replacement set from him and the commas don't work on mine. Was wondering if this trick would work to fix mine as well.

My experience is that the displays for Comet from Marco do not have commas. They know this and hope you don’t care or notice, unless something has changed. I returned mine and went with Xpin. Much better product all around.

#926 3 years ago

So looks like my displays are Pinscores and are Revision "E". I don't see a jumper anywhere on the board. All I see is a push button switch in bottom left corner labeled segment test and a small dial style switch in upper right corner with no label. Can someone please post a pic of this jumper so I can see if it's something that i'm missing? You can see in the pic commas are there they just don't light up.

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#927 3 years ago

I should have been more clear. Yes, the commas are there (mine were the same), but they didn’t work with Comet. I’ll be interested to see if you figure something out. I had Marco contract their engineer for these and he basically said no dice. But again, maybe something has changed....

#928 3 years ago

I should be able to check my board tomorrow to see what revision it is.

#929 3 years ago

I have PinScore's in my Comet and I think the Comas work. I will check tonight. I thought there was a fix for this where you had to swap 2 wires.

#930 3 years ago

Just put Wolffpac Tech displays in my Comet this weekend and was happy to see the commas. Only slight issue I had was not knowing some Comets have pin connectors instead of edge connectors on the master display PCB. A little rewiring and the displays were working good.

So glad I got the chance to join the Comet club.

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#931 3 years ago

Here are my pinscore pics...

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#932 3 years ago
Quoted from JeffF:

Just put Wolffpac Tech displays in my Comet this weekend and was happy to see the commas. Only slight issue I had was not knowing some Comets have pin connectors instead of edge connectors on the master display PCB. A little rewiring and the displays were working good.
So glad I got the chance to join the Comet club.
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How are you liking the Wolfpac displays I’m going to order some from him soon.

#933 3 years ago
Quoted from Matthew2000tx:

How are you liking the Wolfpac displays I’m going to order some from him soon.

This is my third set. I bought two red sets, one for Gorgar and one for Blackout and then an orange set for Comet. The orange looks really close to the originals IMO and it's really nice having displays that only use 5v.

Assembly is straight forward. The only thing to be careful of is how darn sticky the padding stickers are. There are some exposed sticky areas after you install them and if you accidentally have something touch there it's tough getting things unstuck without ripping.

#934 3 years ago
Quoted from JeffF:

This is my third set. I bought two red sets, one for Gorgar and one for Blackout and then an orange set for Comet. The orange looks really close to the originals IMO and it's really nice having displays that only use 5v.
Assembly is straight forward. The only thing to be careful of is how darn sticky the padding stickers are. There are some exposed sticky areas after you install them and if you accidentally have something touch there it's tough getting things unstuck without ripping.

That is great I have a blackout that I planned on getting a set for too! I think I'm just sticking with original orange. Did you buy from his website or from ebay. How was it to contact him and say you needed to Comet set for System 9

#935 3 years ago
Quoted from Matthew2000tx:

That is great I have a blackout that I planned on getting a set for too! I think I'm just sticking with original orange. Did you buy from his website or from ebay. How was it to contact him and say you needed to Comet set for System 9

I bought directly from his website. Unfortunately I didn't realize Comet used a PCB with pin connectors instead of edge connectors until after I assembled my set. Luckily I had spare edge connectors and the wiring conversion chart is readily available online.

I did write him via his website contact form but haven't heard back yet(it's only been 4 or 5 days). Not sure if the form is broke or what but in the end I didn't need anything so it wasn't an issue.

If I really needed a reply I'd probably have written to him again via eBay since his auction tells you to ask him about Comet. (I just wish his website mentioned Comet was a different PCB.)

And I think I'd also go with orange for Blackout if I had it to do over again. Red goes great with Gorgar but it's only so-so with Blackout IMO.

#936 3 years ago

Ok, I got my Comet working.

All seems well, but I'm a bit mystified by the backbox GI lights.

I've put in plain white frosted LEDs.

First of all : they work and the relay switches them on in coil test as coil number 13.

But - they're not on during attract mode.

The controlled lights and flashers in the backbox work.

When I start a game, at certain times the lights will switch on briefly.

Is this normal behavior - or is there a wrong setting or something completely wrong with my game ?

#937 3 years ago
Quoted from Zigzagzag:

Ok, I got my Comet working.
All seems well, but I'm a bit mystified by the backbox GI lights.
I've put in plain white frosted LEDs.
First of all : they work and the relay switches them on in coil test as coil number 13.
But - they're not on during attract mode.
The controlled lights and flashers in the backbox work.
When I start a game, at certain times the lights will switch on briefly.
Is this normal behavior - or is there a wrong setting or something completely wrong with my game ?

Sounds like a flaky relay.

#938 3 years ago
Quoted from pinheadpierre:

Sounds like a flaky relay.

Ok, so this is not normal behavior then ?
I'll take a closer look at the relay and associated transistors then.

Thanks

#939 3 years ago
Quoted from Zigzagzag:

Ok, so this is not normal behavior then ?
I'll take a closer look at the relay and associated transistors then.
Thanks

Check this relay next time your backbox lights go out. As they age they can get sticky. Often, tapping on it will be enough to get it to turn back on. It is a commonly available automotive part.

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#940 3 years ago

pinheadpierre thank you for the picture !
My relay worked, but previous owner had moved one connector from normal-closed to normal-open - your center contact.
Mine was connected to the outer lug.
I moved it to the center one, and now it seems to work as it should

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#941 3 years ago

How does everyone else’s kick-out from the ramp shot function?

I’ve replaced the coil sleeve, and it seems the solenoid works just fine, but I’ve always felt that the kick feels...weird. Like it SHOULD kick into the pops, but it just kind of dribbles down to the flippers.

#942 3 years ago
Quoted from reconsider59:

How does everyone else’s kick-out from the ramp shot function?
I’ve replaced the coil sleeve, and it seems the solenoid works just fine, but I’ve always felt that the kick feels...weird. Like it SHOULD kick into the pops, but it just kind of dribbles down to the flippers.

That kind of kicker isn't going to do much more than remove the ball from the saucer. It's not meant to throw it far.

#943 3 years ago
Quoted from reconsider59:

How does everyone else’s kick-out from the ramp shot function?
I’ve replaced the coil sleeve, and it seems the solenoid works just fine, but I’ve always felt that the kick feels...weird. Like it SHOULD kick into the pops, but it just kind of dribbles down to the flippers.

Mine kicks into the pops every single time.
My kickout from the funhouse however barely moves the ball. They look like the same part and looking at the manual confirms they are. I have never played another Comet so not sure how they usually kickout from there

#944 3 years ago
Quoted from reconsider59:

How does everyone else’s kick-out from the ramp shot function?
I’ve replaced the coil sleeve, and it seems the solenoid works just fine, but I’ve always felt that the kick feels...weird. Like it SHOULD kick into the pops, but it just kind of dribbles down to the flippers.

I have this on my long term bucket list of pinball refinements. I plan to see what it’s like either with a slightly stronger coil or maybe unwind the existing coil two or three hundred turns like I do on old games with sluggish pops.

#945 3 years ago

Potential Comet club member based on the current members thoughts on the condition of this game. Background on it, it was my buddies mother's and has not been played in 15 or so years. It was in her bowling alley and moved home after they sold the business. Things I am seeing with my limited knowledge, needs shopped badly, bands are falling off. It will turn on but not launch a ball. 3 of the displays do not work. If I move the cable from the working one the others will work but display segments are out. I found a number of connectors unplugged, plugged them in with no changes. Found a burnt connector on the board and gets warm when powered on. Also cannot find what this connector goes to. She wants 400 for it. I am not afraid to fix it but I don't want to pump more money in it than I could sell it for when I'm tired of owning it. See pictures and let me know your thoughts.

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#946 3 years ago

For $400 you could do a lot worse. Looks like a nice project.

#947 3 years ago
Quoted from Pablito350:

For $400 you could do a lot worse. Looks like a nice project.

Yeah maybe but my knowledge is limited to what I learn on here. Don't want to get in too much over my head.

#948 3 years ago

I mean, for 400 bucks, you'll get your money back easily if you can't get it going.

#949 3 years ago
Quoted from Jason43:

I mean, for 400 bucks, you'll get your money back easily if you can't get it going.

Any thoughts on that hot connector? Anyone see that before? Or how about that loose connector?

#950 3 years ago

That's a speaker wire.

Reterminate the hot connector. The connections inside are fouled.

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