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Comet and Cyclone full restorations


By Tomass

6 months ago



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#151 4 months ago

Trying to nail down the orange so I can finish this up and move to the next step. Getting close but still a little more yellow.

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#152 4 months ago

Yellow fighting a little red can be a losing battle. I poured half into another orange and then added more yellow. I think this is gonna do it. Once it dries I think it will be right on.

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#153 4 months ago

Couple more coats and these swirls will be gone. This orange mayches when hit with naptha. Then a once over tidying up all the colors. Also need to get the 1 2 3 airbrushed in. Nice to see the finish line is sight. This is my least favorite part of doing restos. I enjoy it, but it is stressfull. I find it relaxing to strip or repop a playfield. Almost therapeutic.

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#154 4 months ago

You need an earthshaker now

#155 4 months ago

I agree! We keep feeling aftershocks still. I wish I could find an Earthshaker!

#156 4 months ago

Do you have any tips on how to judge the amount or paint to mix per color. I'm thinking having a bit leftover would be good but I'm afraid of mixing up too little.

#157 4 months ago

I always judge by eye and try to make extra. Sometimes I cut it close though. Especially when it takes mutiple layers and it's still not covering ball marks or something. I started with a set of primaries and now I buy bigger jugs as each runs out. Also depends if I am brushing or airbrushing an area. I really don't want to match the color again. It is such a process to match it to a point it is undetectable.

#158 4 months ago

Wish I had a better formula or something. Sorry.

#159 4 months ago

One thing I will say, if you make orange, start with the amount you want in yellow and then slowly add red. Red seems to come out more after drying too. Same with blue. If making green add blue slowly to yellow. Trying to bring it back takes tons of yellow.

#160 4 months ago

At this point, I am fairly happy with all the problem areas. Still need to clean up the ferris wheel lane and airbrush the 123. That gouged area behind the comet entrance is to accommodate the repro ramp.
All the destroyed grey and yellowed white are acceptable now.

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The blue area was pretty bad too.
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These pop bumpers were real bad as well. Granted they are covered and not seen, but I still want to clean them a little more too.

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#161 4 months ago

Next decision is what to do about this grey on Comet. Do I brighten it up some? Do I try to match what is there and just paint the problem areas? Anyone have any thoughts on this?

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#162 4 months ago

I think I secured a project for next winter. Trading my Rescue 911 for a non working sys 11. Dollar value is not in my favor technically, even if both were working. Really enjoy sys 11's and consider them keepers. Hoping to have a full line of them some day. Also do not care if others think they are not worthy of restoration, it is what I collect. Also truly enjoy having the work over the winters.

#163 4 months ago
Quoted from vid1900:

That large one is not original to Comet.

You think this ramp protector could have been added mid run on these Comets?

I was just at the Vegas Pinball Hall of Fame and their Comet has it.
There is a Comet in the Marketplace now that has it.
Just randomly I was looking through Craigslist and one in New Orleans has it.
Also if you Google Comet pinball there are a lot in the images that have it also.

Not sure how many mods where being done in 1985 but I would think this ramp protector was factory just maybe a later ad.
The entrance to my ramp looks hammered down exactly like the small one in this one also.

The image is of the Pinball Hall of Fame and there ramp decal was one high enough to be able to read Comet not like mine which it is almost completely covered.

Op keep up the great work also and images

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#164 4 months ago
Quoted from BertoDRINK1:

You think this ramp protector could have been added mid run on these Comets?
I was just at the Vegas Pinball Hall of Fame and their Comet has it.
There is a Comet in the Marketplace now that has it.
Just randomly I was looking through Craigslist and one in New Orleans has it.
Also if you Google Comet pinball there are a lot in the images that have it also.
Not sure how many mods where being done in 1985 but I would think this ramp protector was factory just maybe a later ad.
The entrance to my ramp looks hammered down exactly like the small one in this one also.
The image is of the Pinball Hall of Fame and there ramp decal was one high enough to be able to read Comet not like mine which it is almost completely covered.
Op keep up the great work also and images
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I think the original on mine is strange. Not a very smoth edge to ride up. Plus mine is mushroomed from abuse. I will need to grind ir down or replace it.

#165 4 months ago

Not being completely lazy on my projects. Still waiting on white paint that was "out for delivery" yesterday. Amazon Prime in Alaska is not the same as it is in the lower 48. You guys get same day shipping for the most part. I order stuff and 4 days later it might ship. Then who know how long to my door. I have also been exploring the whole waterslide thing as something I need to figure out. I ordered decal paper a few days ago and guess what?...not shipped yet. Lol. Most people up here still love prime just for the free shipping, so not really complaining too much.

#166 4 months ago

I found some decal paper at the hobby shop in Anchorage (I think its called house of hobbies).

#167 4 months ago
Quoted from Steinke:

I found some decal paper at the hobby shop in Anchorage (I think its called house of hobbies).

I should have checked local prices but I already ordered from Amazon.

#168 4 months ago
Quoted from BertoDRINK1:

You think this ramp protector could have been added mid run on these Comets?

They made a zillion of them so anything is possible.

I know the distributors were pushing them to protect that ramp entrance, but I think they were charging for them, not a free Williams upgade.

#169 4 months ago

Airbrushed the 1 2 and 3 on the inserts. Cyclone is just about ready to clear coat. I am gonna order a triangle insert to see if it fits the cracked one.

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#170 4 months ago

do you know where I can find the relay boards for under the play field? I have one on mine that is burned up. If I can't find one I will end up having to make one.

#171 4 months ago

I wanna say great lakes modular has them. Maybe reach out to them. You can usually fix them and replace the relay. Usually it is the connectors that get toasted.

#172 3 months ago

I plan on doing the last little touchups on Cyclone today and then hit Comet to finish the grey and get it to the next stage. I may have to put up a wall tent and heat it up to clear coat. I am a long way from anything close to warm enough outside. I was using a dome tent last spring to keep out bugs and dust.

#173 3 months ago

Picked up a project for next winter! Traded a Rescue 911, which I didn't care for and got a High Speed. Playfield has mylar so that is a plus. Up to 5 system 11's now.

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#174 3 months ago

Probably the best of all of the system 11s. Congrats!

#175 3 months ago
Quoted from pintechev:

Probably the best of all of the system 11s. Congrats!

I like the sound of that! I love system 11's but have not played HS yet.

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#176 3 months ago

I surely hope you will clean up your work. The touchups are sloppy, cannot imagine they will come out nice after the clearcoat.

#177 3 months ago
Quoted from HarrieD:

I surely hope you will clean up your work. The touchups are sloppy, cannot imagine they will come out nice after the clearcoat.

Constructive criticism is one thing, but if you want to be an ass, go to another thread.

For those actually following, I have been cleaning up my work. It just takes many tries before I am ok with it. My hands are extremely shaky so I have more misses than hits.

#178 3 months ago

I didn't post my last pic but here it is. As I admitted, it still needed much cleanup. A lot of my issues came from the dull exacto leaving jagged edges. But live and learn. I am currently working the "the boomerang" area. I will go over it 1 or 2 more times.

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#179 3 months ago

I want to do the black outlines around a couple inserts with waterslides, perhaps. I have never used them but just got some in the mail. It will be tough because the only laser printer I have access to is as work. So there will be a day for each test / compare.

#180 3 months ago

Time to really move on all my projects. With Christmas and New Year things have been slow on the projects. We also added a puppy to the family! Kids are so happy but adds to the distractions.

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#181 3 months ago
Quoted from Tomass:

Constructive criticism is one thing, but if you want to be an ass, go to another thread.
For those actually following, I have been cleaning up my work. It just takes many tries before I am ok with it. My hands are extremely shaky so I have more misses than hits.

If you're only looking for the replies with people praising the lord and heaven and your work I think you must rethink why you're posting in the first place. I honestly respect all the effort that's been done to both playfields, but want to express my deepest concerns. Your work is sloppy and can be done much better with propably a little more effort. I hope this inspires you, if not, please continue but it's not my cup of tea.

And yeah, I know what I'm talking about: http://www.flipperforum.be/viewtopic.php?f=12&t=8542

#182 3 months ago
Quoted from HarrieD:

If you're only looking for the replies with people praising the lord and heaven and your work I think you must rethink why you're posting in the first place. I honestly respect all the effort that's been done to both playfields, but want to express my deepest concerns. Your work is sloppy and can be done much better with propably a little more effort. I hope this inspires you, if not, please continue but it's not my cup of tea.
And yeah, I know what I'm talking about: http://www.flipperforum.be/viewtopic.php?f=12&t=8542

The link is a half completed project, which has issue as well. I am not going to jump on your thread to point them out however. I am not restoring this for you, so Don't worry about it. It will be perfect for my use and much better than when I started. If you followed, I admitted that It needed cleaned up and that I was working on that very thing. I am not going to sweat some areas that will never be seen once populated. This game is for my enjoyment and will not be sold. If you have pointers as to how to improve please add them. I am sure there are plenty of other threads where people enjoy arguing if that's what you are looking for.

#183 3 months ago
Quoted from Tomass:

I am not restoring this for you, so Don't worry about it. It will be perfect for my use and much better than when I started.

And much better than myself and 90% of pinsiders can do!

#184 3 months ago
Quoted from Tomass:

The link is a half completed project, which has issue as well. I am not going to jump on your thread to point them out however. I am not restoring this for you, so Don't worry about it. It will be perfect for my use and much better than when I started. If you followed, I admitted that It needed cleaned up and that I was working on that very thing. I am not going to sweat some areas that will never be seen once populated. This game is for my enjoyment and will not be sold. If you have pointers as to how to improve please add them. I am sure there are plenty of other threads where people enjoy arguing if that's what you are looking for.

Fair enough. I love all the effort of people, I enjoy when people take the time to make something better and if your work fits within your own vision then hey, I vote for that.
The only thing I want to accomplish is that you might think twice before accepting your work to be "better than it ever was before" if you can do better.

Some tips:
1. In a previous post I read that the rough edges were caused by a worn out blade (or did I misunderstand that??). Renew the blade before anything else.
2. Yellow and orange are difficult colors to airbrush, apply a layer of white as a base coat first
3. Stay away from the brush too much when doing touchups. Paint will be thick (and I see that on your pictures as well).

If you are stuck somewhere, don't hesitate to contact me.

Here are some of my projects (in Dutch but has lots of pictures):

http://www.flipperforum.be/viewtopic.php?f=12&t=9512&start=25
http://www.flipperforum.be/viewtopic.php?f=12&t=3478
http://www.flipperforum.be/viewtopic.php?f=12&t=5288

#185 3 months ago
Quoted from HarrieD:

Fair enough. I love all the effort of people, I enjoy when people take the time to make something better and if your work fits within your own vision then hey, I vote for that.
The only thing I want to accomplish is that you might think twice before accepting your work to be "better than it ever was before" if you can do better.
Some tips:
1. In a previous post I read that the rough edges were caused by a worn out blade (or did I misunderstand that??). Renew the blade before anything else.
2. Yellow and orange are difficult colors to airbrush, apply a layer of white as a base coat first
3. Stay away from the brush too much when doing touchups. Paint will be thick (and I see that on your pictures as well).
If you are stuck somewhere, don't hesitate to contact me.
Here are some of my projects (in Dutch but has lots of pictures):
http://www.flipperforum.be/viewtopic.php?f=12&t=9512&start=25
http://www.flipperforum.be/viewtopic.php?f=12&t=3478
http://www.flipperforum.be/viewtopic.php?f=12&t=5288

Thank you for the advice. I am always looking for ways to improve and take all pointers into consideration.

#186 3 months ago

Not part of original restoration, but I've developed a new "toy" for those who are interested: https://pinside.com/pinball/forum/topic/cyclone-comet-coaster

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#187 3 months ago
Quoted from Mr_Tantrum:

Not part of original restoration, but I've developed a new "toy" for those who are interested: https://pinside.com/pinball/forum/topic/cyclone-comet-coaster[quoted image]

I saw that in another thread. Looks really good but I have so many things to buy for my machines before I buy any mods. If I had extra dough I would consider this though.

#188 3 months ago

Working on the grey now. I want to match it so it's not noticeable so I don't have to brush in all the fine detail around the people.

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#189 3 months ago

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#190 3 months ago

Getting real close now.

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#191 3 months ago
Quoted from Tomass:

Getting real close now.
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That's a very difficult color to match, I always add just a touch of black with a toothpick. One drop black is way too much most of the times because dark colors are dominant.

#192 3 months ago
Quoted from Mr_Tantrum:

Not part of original restoration, but I've developed a new "toy" for those who are interested: https://pinside.com/pinball/forum/topic/cyclone-comet-coaster[quoted image]

Very nice sir. I sold my Cyclone (yeah yeah, blasphemie, I know), otherwise this should be a nice addition.

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#193 26 days ago

So honestly people have sucked the fun out of logging my work. It's not that have thin skin even, but I am doing the work for the peace of mind that it brings and for an escape from the daily bullshit and assholes. So I am still working on my games and I may post up a final post when I finish. Spring is pretty much here so I will be clear coating very soon.

#194 26 days ago

You can never be rid of all assholes in your life, I'm still here!

#195 26 days ago

Thats too bad, I was enjoying your updates. But I dont blame you.

#196 25 days ago

Please post some completed photos! Don't let the stupid comments get to you. I enjoy your updates.

#197 25 days ago
Quoted from GRUMPY:

You can never be rid of all assholes in your life, I'm still here!

Quoted from jaytrem:

Thats too bad, I was enjoying your updates. But I dont blame you.

Quoted from U235:

Please post some completed photos! Don't let the stupid comments get to you. I enjoy your updates.

Wow, thanks guys. That's 3 more than I figured were following along. I have to say, it has been nice to take a break from pinside for a minute and I am getting my momentum back now. Alaska winters take their mental and physical toll as well just with the lack of sunlight alone. Anyway, I helped a couple people fix their games over the past couple months and now I am itching for spring so I can clear coat. Still mostly 30s and 40s here but days are getting long fast. I am finishing up a No Fear for a friend this weekend and then I want to get back to doing at least something daily with one of my 4 projects. You guys are right though, I can't stop over some keyboard critics. I will post what I do and if it doesn't meet someone else standards, that is their problem. In the end I will have a gameroom full of pins playing smooth as silk and looking fairly decent.

#198 25 days ago

I think that you’re doing some nice fn work man..I have a comet, and a cyclone that’ll be in my line up in 3 weeks..I enjoy all the pix/info on how you’re approaching/making your games better..looking forward to more pix upon completion!

#199 25 days ago

Totally! Keep the updates coming!

#200 23 days ago

I realize this is far from perfect and I wish I had not made some of the mistakes that I did, but I am not doing much more to this besides a clear coat. I am happy with how far it has come and the errors will be barely noticeable when in the machine. I am home sick hoping to get some work on my projects. Almost 50 today, I may clear!

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