People who order Popeye have them shipped to P.O. Boxes to hide their home address.

Good call. I would make it very clear what displays work with what, especially if you don't take returns or exchanges on non-defective items.

Nah, they just order the AFM display and secretly download the Popeye firmware from home.

I'd assume software downloads is how they can tell what games are being colored...not actual display sales

I am sure it will remain high, someones got to pay for those patent attorneys

Good to know, because I just placed an order for a ColorDMD last night.

And I'd like to add that you shipped it within an hour... Thanks!

LOL. I haven't read Randy's patent - have you?
Regardless; it is what it is - deal with it.

I'm glad randy is embarking on new technologies... my concern Technically; is the power requirements of these panels.... If you think ColorDMD had an issue... ColorLED will be an order of magnitude worse. I wouldn't be surprised if Randy has to ship with a secondary PSU.

This is just what I've been waiting for! I've never been wild on LCDs as DMDs and had been keeping an eye on the homebrew LED stuff, but there's a lot of faffing around with it... never mind wondering about the quality of whoever was doing the colouring. With this, it solves both of those problems!

I just hope they're ready to go by the time they announce RBION!

Three more for me.

Tron
PotC
Met pro

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What's the ETA for sales on the CV platform? If it can be had by end of April, would like to set mine up in local pin expo.

Shoot! I knew I should have waited....

I've been waiting for a model with darker black levels

Black levels can be improved with a film to create true black.

CV!!!! Cant wait to see this in action. Ive been hoping there would be a solution for CV one day. Now i just have to find some money to buy it lol. Someone please take a video at TPF for me!!

Was contemplating TZ for Color and now I open this thread. CV is an absolute must ( more vivid coloring?)

Woot! One more thing to check out at TPF!

what mod is that? I have a LCD in my Metallica and can't think of a backbox mod it would disrupt...?

This will hopefully make it so Rocky and Bullwinkle can finally have the coloring it deserves. Nothing screams a need for color like a game based off of a cartoon. fingers crossed...

Yup, I got some ND film for my Pin2DMD for my TZ. Once I get it install, I'll grab a pic with it off.

The LED panels put off enough light to easily look bright enough with the film over them.

Note the small shadow along the bottom edge. That's with a full animated backbox mod behind it. I have a cheaper non-animated LED light board in my Ironman that does the same thing.

The fluorescent tube is up high seems to cast at a different enough angle that it doesn't do that, but when you replace it with a panel that has LEDs down low, you get the shadow. It's minor, I admit, but for some reason it bugs me. I've thought of some ways to work around it, but I really think the best way is putting an LED display board in there.

--Donnie

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I've done two DIY projects for $80 each. I don't know where your $150 is coming from. These panels shipped from China were $52 each.

$52 panel from China, $59 for "UncleSash" pin2dmd board, $9 FAST frame, $15 for a power supply, some misc shipping and other stuff. You can sub Eli's board for $50ish, IIRC.

So sure, under $150, but over $125, anyway. And you're still doing some amount of custom wiring to power things. With pin2dmd you also need a 2GB SD card. Also note that the panel shipped from China option is seeming to have a pretty high failure rate. So far they've been good about replacing them for free, but at 3 weeks shipping each, that can be painful.

I'm sure you can DIY your own board and save a few bucks more, and probably skip the FAST board (but for that price, dang, I don't know why you would).

Then what do you have? Something you can easily pick ONE different color for your game. What games are *completely* and fully colorized already and available for download for free for any of these solutions? I'm not saying there aren't any, but I'm pretty sure the list of titles is short. And that's a place the community certainly isn't organized yet...it's really neat that with PinSound (which is admittedly ONE platform) they have a nice repo of contributed reorchestrations. Do we have that for any of the colorization efforts?

--Donnie

I love when people price parts from China and pretend the people HERE working on these solutions don't deserve to be paid and the r&d it takes. But hey, if I can save $50.

Did I miss a Flintstones release for colorDMD or is it just a SIGMA?

I've been downloading the popeye rom image on a daily basis. I guess the jig is up
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The Flintstones was released Full Colored in October 2015.

Me too! Actually even though they ship Simga they use the game you pick when ordering to track. Too hard to track as you move from game to game.

Nice Goon picture.

Check the list and see what else you missed out on.
http://shop.colordmd.com/

Could someone put up a video of this when you get a chance? Thanks

Any plans to change the lcd for one that fits the original plasma display like Dutch Pinball did for there Big Lebouwski.
That one fits a cv and you still can upscale it.

Custom cut/size LCDs are VERY expensive. People already gripe too much that ColorDMD is expensive, nobody would want to pay what a custom LCD makes it cost.

SmartDMD already has a couple games colorized for SAM. Regardless of what system you buy at the end of the day it is the community that is colorizing the games, not the people designing the software/hardware. So not sure why you are spouting off about having any of that for colorization efforts.

Unless you want to pay $10k for a pinball (Lebowski)

"Spouting off"? I asked a question. Seems like the next step that the community needs is to know there are colorized games and which ones they are. And from there how to get that stuff working on their game...ideally without having to dig through a mound of forum threads.

--Donnie

Anyone at the show care to comment on the new displays? Any pics?

Show doesn't officially open for a few hours yet. CV might not be running yet.

Oh yeah, CV with the new LED display looks great!!! I need to find that POTC now.

The POTC ColorDMD looks great. No going back once you have seen it.

Any pics of the new display?

Saw two in the pinball news article.

http://www.pinballnews.com/shows/tpf2016/index.html

I'm impressed with what I saw. It really pops compared to the LCD monitors. My only complaint is I did notice a slight flicker compared to a traditional DMD. That's being super picky and in no way a deal breaker. Really looks great. Buying one as soon as they're available for my CV.

On Avengers, it looked decent. I like the wider angle viewing versus LCD.

On CV, the display (to me ) seemed pretty harsh on the eye. Not just bright, but seemed.. almost out of focus. I think this was an effect of having the 3 LED's (R,G,B) in each LED package; and the eye not *quite* blending them together.

So the question is then...is it still BETTER than a monochrome DMD? And if so, how much? As in, is it still $400 better such that you'd replace a good DMD with an LED one anyway? Or is it "just" $200 better such that if you had to replace your now-bad DMD anyway that you'd at least then be willing to spend $400 instead of $200? Or is it sort of "meh, maybe I like the monochrome just as well?"

I'm doubting it's the latter, but just looking for where it is on the relative scale.

(And my numbers are assuming a $400 price point, which I think is probably close but may not be exact.)

--Donnie

It's definitely better than monochrome, but I'm not much of a fan of the display style in general. In the games where it's the only workable option, so be it, but I'd always take LCD over LED if it fit.

The one in CV looks decent enough. Some colors seem too bright, but not terribly so.

I'd like to see some video of it in action but from the pics the dots seem to be more true to traditional dmd but not as clear as the LCD

Adds another element of decision making for what goes in my shadow.. price and more info will help determine

Looks like a solution for all games that won't fit a regular colordmd, but suspect with the loss of the additional modes like Scan or DotsXL the regular colordmd will still be the standard.