ColorDMD gasket for angled Stern speaker panels

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ColorDMD gasket for angled Stern speaker panels


By vireland

6 months ago



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    #1 6 months ago

    This took a LOT longer than expected because I wanted foam that was as safe as possible in an electronic device - so heat resistant, flame resistant, and UV resistant, without costing $50 each. I finally have these completed with the 3/4" thick foam hybrid (EDIT: final foam thickness is 7/8") that ticks all the marks for safety. I installed one of the three pre-production samples and the result was great (see pics below).

    These are available in my pinside store, Pin Monk. International isn't working in my store yet, so just PM me and I'll get you a shipping quote if you're international.

    Here's a Game of Thrones Premium I just did with the latest pre-production samples.

    Before installation, speaker lights and backglass light bleeds onto screen from the sides, and back of screen gets dusty:
    Before
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    Gasket drops in over the small black spacers on each post and the metal standoffs ColorDMD provides with their standoff kit:
    Gasket Install

    After Installation of gasket - light bleed is gone, and the installation looks much cleaner:
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    #2 6 months ago

    PM sent.

    #3 6 months ago

    What game did Stern start useing the Angled speaker panels?

    #4 6 months ago

    That looks great!! Nice job! Thanks for doing it!

    #5 6 months ago
    Quoted from MJW:

    What game did Stern start useing the Angled speaker panels?

    Star Trek

    #6 6 months ago
    Quoted from MJW:

    What game did Stern start useing the Angled speaker panels?

    Star Trek, so this is for the following angled speaker panel Stern machines with ColorDMD LCD screens:

    Star Trek
    Metallica LED (re-run)
    Iron Man Pro Vault
    AC/DC Vault
    Mustang
    Walking Dead
    Game of Thrones
    Wrestlemania
    KISS
    Ghostbusters
    Spiderman Vault

    #7 6 months ago
    Quoted from nerbflong:

    That looks great!! Nice job! Thanks for doing it!

    I've had the design done for quite a while. The hangup has been finding foam that is actually fire-resistant. Some of the types that said they were on the spec sheet failed the blow-torch test spectacularly. Maybe I'll post some pics of "fire resistant" foam pieces with large flames building on them. The hybrid foam I settled on can take an extended direct blast from a hand torch and not catch fire. Cool stuff, but not cheap.

    #8 6 months ago

    Thank you

    I have a couple of these games but no colordmd yet. When I do I’ll be in touch. But thank you. Little mods like this put that final touch to make it look perfect and you went above and beyond to use the right material

    #9 6 months ago

    Great job bro. Pm sent.
    Harley D.

    #11 6 months ago

    TTT

    #12 6 months ago

    Doing one more sample set with slightly smaller holes that fit tighter to the plastic spacers at the bottom of the posts. It should make the gasket more taut so there's no movement into the display area when you put the screen back on.

    Still taking names for the manufacturing, which should be done in 2-4 weeks, once I check these last samples. PM me if you want to be on the list, along with how many you want.

    Also someone asked how the gasket fits with speaker light kits. The answer is it fits fine. I've attached a picture of a gasket installed in a GoT with the speaker light kit, and there's plenty of room.

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    #13 6 months ago

    Huh?! Pretty cool Vireland.

    #14 6 months ago

    I haven't figured out international shipping, but for those interested, I've been adding them to the list and will contact them once I figure it out.

    #15 6 months ago

    Fantastic idea.

    Pm sent

    #16 6 months ago

    any discount for multiple pieces?

    #17 6 months ago
    Quoted from msj2222:

    any discount for multiple pieces?

    I'm already not making much on them as it is because the fire-resistant foam is so expensive and I want to keep the price down, and I'm charging what the postage+box costs for shipping, so no room for quantity discounts. There's no skimping on quality with this item as a result. You'll know that when you hold one.

    #18 6 months ago

    I’d like one, sent you a pm

    #19 6 months ago

    Here's some of the foam samples I checked with a handheld torch as I was working on a final candidate. I wish I had saved all the samples I tried, but these are a pretty representative 3.

    Early foam was so flammable (and didn't self-extinguish) I took the torch away to take a picture before it got out of hand in the test:
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    The minicel was pretty resistant (most of the flame in this picture is going around the foam and not burning it) and DID self-extinguish after a while, but I couldn't get this in dark black like this sample they sent me and its performance wasn't as awesome as I wanted:
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    After a search with help from a number of people across the country that do foam for a living, I settled on a hybrid foam that is acceptably flame resistant (it takes a direct blast from the torch for a few seconds before catching fire) and self-extinguishes:
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    I'm not making these gaskets to burn with mini-torches, but I wanted to be reasonably certain they had at least SOME decent fire resistance, so I ran these tests on the way to selecting the final material to use.

    #20 6 months ago
    Quoted from vireland:

    Here's some of the foam samples I checked with a handheld torch as I was working on a final candidate. I wish I had saved all the samples I tried, but these are a pretty representative 3.
    Early foam was so flammable (and didn't self-extinguish) I took the torch away to take a picture before it got out of hand in the test:

    The minicel was pretty resistant (most of the flame in this picture is going around the foam and not burning it) and DID self-extinguish after a while, but I couldn't get this in dark black like this sample they sent me and its performance wasn't as awesome as I wanted:

    After a search with help from a number of people across the country that do foam for a living, I settled on a hybrid foam that is acceptably flame resistant (it takes a direct blast from the torch for a few seconds before catching fire) and self-extinguishes:

    I'm not making these gaskets to burn with mini-torches, but I wanted to be reasonably certain they had at least SOME decent fire resistance, so I ran these tests on the way to selecting the final material to use.

    Thanks very much for taking the time to do this and post. Great work and very much appreciated! I am looking forward to getting our one when they are ready.

    #21 6 months ago

    Interested...

    #22 6 months ago

    The more bastards, the better.

    #23 6 months ago

    Also interested.. But curious about something. Why the insistence on fire resistant foam? It seems a little overkill.

    #24 6 months ago
    Quoted from Radius118:

    Also interested.. But curious about something. Why the insistence on fire resistant foam? It seems a little overkill.

    Better safe than sorry. If you saw how fast the foam in picture #1 went up, you wouldn't want it in your machine. The likelihood of a spark or overheat condition sparking a fire is very small, but it's not impossible. And, in that case, this foam won't contribute to that accelerating into a fire. The fire-resistant foam is $8 more than the non-fire-resistant foam per piece. Big picture, that's a small price for a little extra protection.

    #25 6 months ago
    Quoted from Radius118:

    Also interested.. But curious about something. Why the insistence on fire resistant foam? It seems a little overkill.

    seems more fireproof than fire resistant! Must be for the pyrotechnics crowd

    #26 6 months ago
    Quoted from msj2222:

    seems more fireproof than fire resistant! Must be for the pyrotechnics crowd

    Fireproof isn't a promise I can absolutely keep, so I don't say that, but it will resist fire and the foam self-extinguishes after a bit. That's enough.

    (I did stink up the garage testing foam burning on a number of occasions, though)

    #27 6 months ago
    Quoted from vireland:

    Better safe than sorry. If you saw how fast the foam in picture #1 went up, you wouldn't want it in your machine. The likelihood of a spark or overheat condition sparking a fire is very small, but it's not impossible. And, in that case, this foam won't contribute to that accelerating into a fire. The fire-resistant foam is $8 more than the non-fire-resistant foam per piece. Big picture, that's a small price for a little extra protection.

    Fair enough. How about a version that's $8 cheaper and not fire resistant for us cheap folks?

    #28 6 months ago
    Quoted from Radius118:

    Fair enough. How about a version that's $8 cheaper and not fire resistant for us cheap folks?

    I couldn't sleep at night making $8 more profit with no fire resistance.

    #29 6 months ago
    Quoted from Radius118:

    More
    Fair enough. How about a version that's $8 cheaper and not fire resistant for us cheap folks?

    Diy
    https://www.homedepot.com/p/M-D-Building-Products-1-4-in-x-17-ft-Low-Density-Foam-Weatherstrip-Tape-02071/100665371?MERCH=REC-_-PIPHorizontal2_rr-_-202066510-_-100665371-_-N

    Or similar product. But I agree with OP why changed voltage/electronics and the risk? But to each their own.

    #30 6 months ago

    Pm Sent. Interested. Thanks for doing this. It's not hard to do a cheap diy version. That's what I did with weatherstrip tape. Problem is that it's not really removable and ends up looking like butt for the most part. Having a proper solution is worth a few $$ to me.

    #31 6 months ago

    PM Sent...Thanks for taking the time to do what Color DMD should include or at least provide as an option. Well done!!

    #32 6 months ago

    I would gladly pay the $8 more if it isn’t as likely to burn my house down.

    Quoted from vireland:

    I couldn't sleep at night making $8 more profit with no fire resistance.

    #33 6 months ago

    When do you think these will be ready to order?

    #34 6 months ago
    Quoted from arcademojo:

    When do you think these will be ready to order?

    Still waiting on the final samples (I did one more round to adjust the hole sizes for a snugger fit) to come, so probably mid-July for the production units.

    2 weeks later
    #35 5 months ago

    Just an update - the last samples should be here at the end of the week. Took longer than expected as the manufacturer was busy with much larger jobs, and we have to run during gaps.

    2 weeks later
    #36 5 months ago

    This is the factory's busy time of the year, so it's taken a while to get those samples back. I have tracking now and they'll finally be here Wed. When they get here, I'll check them out and also send one of the samples to ColorDMD (keeping them in the loop). Unless there's something horribly wrong, I'll shortly place the factory order for the full run and paypal requests for those on the "interested" list will go out soon.

    #37 5 months ago
    Quoted from vireland:

    This is the factory's busy time of the year, so it's taken a while to get those samples back. I have tracking now and they'll finally be here Wed. When they get here, I'll check them out and also send one of the samples to ColorDMD (keeping them in the loop). Unless there's something horribly wrong, I'll shortly place the factory order for the full run and paypal requests for those on the "interested" list will go out soon.

    Thanks for the update. Great work, I am looking forward to getting our one. Thanks very much for your efforts, much appreciated.

    #38 4 months ago

    No rush on my end. Appreciate you making it. It's something needed imo.

    #39 4 months ago

    PM sent

    #40 4 months ago

    If it isn't too late to add my name to the list, I will take one!

    #41 4 months ago
    Quoted from evanc:

    If it isn't too late to add my name to the list, I will take one!

    I'm keeping track in PM, drop me a PM with the request.

    #42 4 months ago

    Final samples are in and they look like they are really the final samples. The small adjustment on the hole sizes really helped snug up the fit. I have to do a few more test installs on machines, then I should place the order and be sending out paypal requests next week.

    1 week later
    #43 4 months ago

    TTT

    #44 4 months ago

    Just waiting for feedback from the ColorDMD guys on the final sample (out of an abundance of caution) and we're ready to go. Thickness of the final ones will be 7/8" instead of 3/4" because on some test installs there was a sliver of light showing on one side or the other. This will ensure the best light seal.

    #45 4 months ago

    Put me on the list for 3 please

    Should work with the color dmd guy and ask to have the product available on their website

    Might generate more sales

    #46 4 months ago
    Quoted from gatordad:

    Put me on the list for 3 please
    Should work with the color dmd guy and ask to have the product available on their website
    Might generate more sales

    PM me your email and I'll add you to the list. I've kept ColorDMD guys in the loop, so that may happen in the future.

    1 week later
    #47 4 months ago

    Paypal requests have gone out, so check your spam if you didn't see it. I had to adjust the material to make it 1/8" thicker (to be 100% sure there was no light bleed) which cost a bit more, but I didn't change the price for the people on the advance list here. When it shows up later on the Pinside market and elsewhere, it'll be a few bucks more.

    #48 4 months ago

    Is it still possible to order one from you? Hopefully you’re willing to ship international.

    #49 4 months ago
    Quoted from Koos:

    Is it still possible to order one from you? Hopefully you’re willing to ship international.

    International shipping is pretty expensive, but I am doing it for a handful that want this. Most are getting multiple to offset the crazy shipping.

    #50 4 months ago

    Payment sent, thanks for making these available.

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