What's missed here in the "I don't care" crowd, which I am certainly a member of, is that now there is something to beef about. Look at that crap fest. I can't believe CT would be a part of that. Well, I HAVE to believe it because now there is the evidence. IMHO OP started a troll thread, and then pointed out some real unprofessional behavior. Still a troll thread. I buy LEDs from all over, but have spent real $$ with CT and PL. If I am in town, Terry at PL is the way to go, but I am only in town once a year max so CT gets most of the rest anyway. 10% Pinsider discount