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Coil not de-energizing

By JM123

4 years ago



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    #1 4 years ago

    Have a 1953 Williams Silver Skates which the ball release coil stays energized. Door to drop the balls stays open with the coil humming. Turn off power right away & try again - same. Put in probably 40 hours cleaning all switches, staring at everything, etc... Any help out there?

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    #2 3 years ago

    It stays energized until the GAME RE trips — until you score points or hit a bumper.
    Normal behaviour.
    Although the GAME RE should trip when you turn the machine on — does it?

    #3 3 years ago

    Oh thanks, I just checked all the resistances of all those relays on that bank. All were about 8.7 ohms, except the game relay was at .8 so I’m gonna order a new one. Hopefully that will work. It does come on with the toggle switch underneath the game, but needs to come on one more time after the bank resets upon startup and is not. I pushed it on manually with a toothpick and the ball release coil deenergized & all seemed ok. Hoping a new coil is all it needs. Seems like if it works one second it should work later, but maybe not? If the new relay doesn’t work, I’ll be back at square one...

    #4 3 years ago
    Quoted from JM123:

    except the game relay was at .8 so I’m gonna order a new one.

    Check your schematic. The Game relay circuit goes through two normally closed switches. What you're likely measuring is the resistance through those two switches and the transformer and not through the Game relay coil. Block one of those switches with a piece of paper and measure again. You'll probably get a higher resistance.

    /Mark

    #5 3 years ago

    Wow, should not have used a c-note! Spark flew & it went up in flames - just kidding. Anyway, who was that masked man? You’re good. Do you know so much from owning the game? Or do you get the knowledge from knowing how to read schematics so we’ll? If so, what can I purchase to learn more on how to interpret schematics? Watched a lot of videos, but I need instruction from the ground up. Unfortunately, I got the time...Also, seems like a bad design, cause what if I start a game & get interrupted - won’t that ball release coil possibly start a fire? One last thing - if a 50,000 target is hit & I get random scores anywhere from 20,000 to the whole 50,000 is it just new springs for the stepper unit, or a total cleaning? Or something else?? Thanks again so much.

    #6 3 years ago
    Quoted from JM123:

    Anyway, who was that masked man?

    MarkG does know a thing or two!! Check his site: https://www.funwithpinball.com/

    Quoted from JM123:

    how to interpret schematics?

    Clay's superb site has some info: http://www.pinrepair.com/em/index3.htm#schematic

    What helped me was realizing that schematics are not physical maps, but maps of connections.

    #7 3 years ago
    Quoted from currieddog:

    MarkG does know a thing or two!! Check his site: https://www.funwithpinball.com/

    Awesome site! be sure to check it out. and he does a thing or two...maybe more.

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