Nice! Any chance you'll print and sell these? I don't have a 3D printer.

I don't want to be printing a bunch of them, but I have added them as an option when purchasing boards. If you have already purchased, but would like a bracket to go with it, just send me an email via the website or a PM.

I don't know how widespread it is, but the libraries around here have printers, and they will print stuff for the cost of the filament. That's way cheaper than I'd be able to make them for.

So new LED OCD boards purchased will come with the mini bracket?

They will be an option for additional cost. I have only designed brackets for the LED OCD Sys11 Mini and GI OCD WPC89 so far, but those ones are available as options on the website now.

A bracket for GI OCD in a WPC95 game is up now:
http://ledocd.com/install_wpc95_gi_bracket.html

Just installed an led board in my IJ and blew a fuse while in attract mode.

What fuse amperage is supposed to be on this board? A 1 amp?

I only had a 2.5 amp fuse on hand so I tried that and I'm back up.

The game is 100% leds with the exception of two inserts.

I ship them with 1A fast blow installed, which is very conservative. It can be increased if needed.

I shipped them that way since it's protects the board better in the case of a short, and I wasn't sure about what the new design could handle until I had more time with it.

Got it. Should 2.5 be safe? Thanks for the quick reply.

I would suggest using the lowest value you can, at least until I can do more testing. With that said, a 2.5A is probably safe as long as you don't short to 50V. In that case, however, it might not matter how low the fuse value is. You might still damage it.

I installed the board on my BOP and out of the box setting doesn't work very well. Some inserts stay lit all the time and some inserts flicker fading in and out while some work perfect. I've tried different brand and styles of bulbs, good ones and cheep ones, no difference. I wonder if I have a wiring problem.

Paul,

That doesn't sound like settings or bulbs will fix it. It sounds like it isn't properly synchronizing to your driver board. Is it running Bop 2.0? I also wonder if your driver board is stock or an aftermarket. Maybe you got a bad set of cables. Send me an email, and we'll get it worked out.

Thanks Herg. No 2.0, stock driver board.

Email sent.

Works great in my BOP. Not bragging, just saying I'm a confirmed instance of the LED OCD board working in a BOP if that helps.

I know your not, that's good to know yours is working. Thanks.

I'll need some time to look into it herg. Thanks.

Has anyone added an LED OCD to TWD Premium or LE ?

I'm looking at getting an IMVE, which i believe can support an LEDOCD, by removing the smaller boards on J12 & J13, thus restoring the nicer fade effects which Stern bypassed using the VE's LEDs. I'm also keen on TWD, and believe this would also work on the TWD Pro, BUT i prefer the TWD Premium overall, thus my question. Pics of a TWD Prem backbox, J12 & J13 would be enough!

I hate how you can see the game trying to do fades on the red triangular arrow inserts, but it stutters and blinks between ON>OFF>ON. Stern really need better hardware control over their insert effects now they've moved to LEDs.

Yours,
an LED OCD fan across the pond...
Paul.

It will work on IMVE. Just remove the small resistor terminator board first, as you mention.

TWD Prem/LE is a no-go. It uses the newer sytle serial lighting rather than a lamp matrix.

does that mean the Premium has all the fading effects masked for simple LED implementation too? Or does the serial lighting support it?

I know ST Prem can do fading, although they've chosen not too in some cases.

It's totally different than what they did for IMVE. For serial LED games, they have different effects entirely since their control is completely different. The serial LED games all support the same fading, but in the early ones, they did not do such a great job of driving them, and there is more flicker in those games than later ones.

It's theoretically possibly to capture and redrive the signal, but it would be a completely different approach than the current LED OCD for lamp matrices.

Whoah, I just installed an LED OCD in my IMVE and I wasn't thrilled with the results. But I ALSO did not remove anything. Is there any documentation or tutorial about how to do this? Thanks!

Yes. See the note at the bottom of step 6.

http://ledocd.com/install_sam_r3.html

When you say "wasn't thrilled", what kind of problems are you seeing?

Hah I'm an idiot, I just went and re-read the directions. Looks simple to me. Thanks Herg. No problems, the fading absolutely works and looks great... but some of the arrow inserts by the bogey ramps just look kind of weak when they pulse, like not very bright. I imagine removing the anti-ghosting board will help with that.

I did not notice you have mentioned in the past a software archive with some IM tweaks, would you mind PM'ing a link to that? I have this in almost all my games and have left them all at default. Would love to play with some fine-tuned setups.

Oh one last thing, I reached out to you about my WH20 blowing fuses due to a few stray incandescents... your suggestion of stepping up to a 2amp FB totally fixed it! Cheers for the awesome support.

Ok, so hopefully my last assumption & question (for today):

On IMVE; i'd need to have an LEDOCD board, remove the J12 & J13 mini-boards, and enable the OLD option in the "adjustment that lets you pick the new light shows or the old" (taken from the Stern IMVE v1.83 release notes). This then drives the lamps for incandescent lighting effects to support the original IM.

Whereas in TWD Pro, i cannot see any similar option from the release notes, presumably because this is the only version. Therefore the LEDOCD 'could' reveal some good lighting effects hidden in there, as it could've been coded for incandescents, but then again it could 'just' smooth out (and slightly dim) those harsh flashing LEDs.

Thanks.

The IM settings I use on my game are in the archive at http://ledocd.com/software/led_ocd_v1.9.0.zip. Just use import and browse to the "settings" folder.

Glad to hear it. I am going to do some more testing with incandescent and the new design, then most likely increase the value of the fuse that it ships with.

Correct.

From what I understand, the only version in TWD Pro would be a dumbed down version that plays nicely with LEDs. This would be analogous to the new IMVE lighting. I would assume the latter, just smoothing and slightly dimming.

Joining the club. Anyone care to share their settings for an F-14 Tomcat?

Thanks!

Has anyone gotten the software to run on Windows 10? When I launch the exe it want me to download files for .NET 3.5. .NET 4.5 is already part of the OS WIN10.

Yes, I have ran it on Windows 10. .NET 4.5 and 3.5 are independent versions, and the LED OCD software is compiled to use 3.5. Allow it to install, and it should work fine.

Just installed LEDOCD in Jack*bot. Wow!! Looks great, what a fantastic product! Using Out of box settings (OOBS) and its night and day difference!

Yeah, windows isn't happy about installing .NET 3.5. I think I need to have the OS source file available.

I'm pretty sure that when I did it, it automatically downloaded and installed it. You could try manually downloading it:
https://www.microsoft.com/en-us/download/details.aspx?id=21

OOBS for me too on f-14 tomcat look great. Night and day difference. I don't think the youtube videos do this product justice.

LED OCD installed in IMVE.

AWESOME is restored.

Is there such a thing as LED FLASHER OCD ??

If not, there should be.

i am a huge fan of LEDs, but i keep my flashers incandescent. LED flashers are just way too harsh, unless they are hidden from direct view.

All the more reason for such a product.

Sorry, but no, there's not. I don't think it would be practical to build and be able to install. I would actually like to see a flasher bulb with smoothing built in.

Does the gizmo led ocd works with lotr? Has somebody experience with it?

Someone may have used it and could speak from first hand experience, but I can say based on the design that it will work fine with LOTR.

Have you tried putting the flat top flashers in? I think they work better then the tower type, they project all the light upward and light the domes really nice.

Don't suppose there's any more documented logic behind the GIzmo settings for Stern GI?

The website says:

----

(http://ledocd.com/cart/index.php?main_page=product_info&cPath=1&products_id=19)

Fade Time Adjustment
You have the option of removing one or both of the jumpers to make your GI fade on and off more quickly. The speed at which they fade is dependent on how many LEDs are in your game and what type they are.

----

So, LED type aside, does that mean if i take both jumpers out = ON/OFF fade is faster?

Both jumpers plugged in = ON/OFF fade slower?

4 settings in total? i.e.

11 = Slow fade (both jumpers present)
10 = Slower fade
01 = Faster fade
00 = Fast fade (no jumpers present)

The 3 games I have fitted with these have 100% LEDs in the GI.

Much appreciated.

The GIzmo is completely passive. It's just a bridge and some capacitors to convert to DC and slowly discharge. Removing either of the jumpers disconnects one of the capacitors so that the others discharge faster, causing the LEDs to fade off more quickly.

Thanks.

Just looking at the thread title.. Here's a tip; Buy one. Here's a trick; Buy it from Comet Pinball. Here's a thought; Is one enough? Here's some advice; Do it now.

There are multiple places you can get them now.

Direct from LED OCD - Lowest price, and I get the biggest cut, if you care about that. I can't ship internationally, though.
Comet Pinball - Great choice, and you can buy your LEDs at the same time.
PSPA - Australian source.
Pinballshop.nl - Netherlands source with a wide selection of our kits.

I have always bought direct. Shipping is super fast and I do believe it is important to give the creator of a great mod the biggest cut - only fair.

This is an amazing addition to any machine - people are blown away when they see the result in person.

Thanks Herg!

Yup, I bought mine direct also.

Quick question for the LED OCD brains... I was going to order a T2 LED kit from Cointaker. The kit contains Premium Super Non-Ghosting LEDs, will they be compatible with an LED OCD?

Cheers!

edit - I read that normal LEDs were better in some way. Just checking these will also be ok.

compatible, yes. they'll work fine.

bulbs without non-ghosting circuitry look slightly better, though. with non-ghosting bulbs, you will lose a bit of the "fade" and the ability to control the bulb's brightness below a certain threshold.