Self adhesive strips? You mean mylar?

I've never used mylar on a kickout/scoop before... I don't think it would do much to prevent the kind of wear that cliffys are usually intended for. I would say though that the orthanc drop on LOTR doesn't really seem prone to heavy wear. I have seen the Gimli and shire completely CHEWED OUT though on a route pin. I'd still put it on *when it's convienient* to do so, but IMO, it's not really needed on Orthanc for home use. The Gimli I consider mandatory, same as the plastic protector for the shire. They're both way too close to the front and with balls coming in from both sides of the gimli hole, that sucker gets it double.

Okay, I know what you're talking about now. I worked at an Office Max for a year, lol.

Interesting idea. You're probably going to get the same "ball travel" effects that a cliffy would add, because it's a lot thicker than a mylar, so no net benefit there.. I definitely wouldn't try it on anything without a modern clearcoat, and then, would still probably be a bit gunshy to ever try and remove it. I guess that's another bonus for the cliffy. They're sacrifical in nature, so even if they DO get damaged to the point where it's an issue, they're removable. Really, I think the only thing you'd be gaining in the end over the cliffy is visibility of the art, and the Cliffy doesn't cover all that much, especially like on the orthanc where it's got a margin of a black key line and wood around it.

Probably, but I know a lot of people here are just using a slingshot half-moon mylar for that. I put one down in my Tron and it's barely noticeable. Probably going to do the same thing for my other games since all of them at this point have really nice PFs.

*edit* You know, if you can find a place under the apron that's got some art, like say the color screening test area, you could slap some down on there, leave it for a while, and then see how hard it is to get off...if you're really dead-set on using the self-laminating stuff.

I cut out fake Mylar and put it in the entire shooter lane. It is completely invisible and protects shooter lanes with pin striping like SM.

Mylar, or any clear sheet plastic won't protect from impact very long. Basically you're putting sheet plastic on top of painted plastic (clear coat). The impact point of a pinball is the size of a dull pencil so dimpling is inevitable. Extra clear plastic will kick the problem down the road a bit though

Tons of W/B have mylar over ball inlane drops...and they're all dented now.

No effect...you never notice it. Just installed 2 on my Wh20 last night and played bunch of games...doesn't slow it down at all.

Just put a cliffy in the neutral zone on Star Trek-such a simple idea-wish I thought of it. What is greatabout cliffys is the look and it covers up previous damage around the hole-snapped right in with no screws or adhesive. Those mylar strips sound interesting. Mabye would work for my Spiderman Doc Ock hole drop-I have a little wear and nobody sells protection for it. I found the little mylar circles for the Doc Ock magnet but not the hole? It is circular hole drop and it has started to chip. Any Ideas-what is that brand of strips they sell at Office Depot? Thanks

http://www.passionforpinball.com/Spiderman.htm

First thing I do with a pin I get is cover a good portion of shooter lane with light adhesive vinyl adds some good protection IMO.

Thanks cliffy-I looked everywhere-I will order Doc Ock and Sandman-which I did not even think of-Thanks again!

Yes Dude due tell I want to do this where due I get the vinyl also it is removable correct?

Cliffy how about a magnet protector .. Vinyl or Mylar to go around the ock magnet on SM
Do you have?

Nothing yet I'm afraid. One big problem is mounting a protector there. Pretty much all I could use is the 3M adhesive tape. This is such an abused area it would likely pop loose in short order.
Another potential issue is how the stainless would affect the magnet pole. Stainless is not 100% non-magnetic. I do have an idea in my head for one, however. I just need to figure out how to implement it

I'm not understanding why you would want to do that, Ice. You're willing to risk a $500 playfield by using a piece of tape to shield against a steel ball. So that's like, what, .05 cents worth of insurance? The cost of a piece of vinyl tape?

Or maybe $12 insurance, the cost of my stainless steel protector, is too high for you to truly protect that $500 playfield? I'm not gettin' it
http://www.passionforpinball.com/balleject/NM-SMeject2.jpg

What I'd like to see is Stern use the little metal strips on every game like they did with Avatar LE. I realize they weren't put there for the purpose of protecting the shooter lane, but they sure do a good job of it.

Yeah coz Lord knows they would do a better job than I would and they wouldn't even raise the price of the games one red cent.... no sirree

Cliffy what protectors do you make for ac/dc premium? Shooter lane ect?

http://www.pinballlife.com/index.php?p=product&id=2787

Thanks Tripp! Will that same protector work on my ac/cd and my SM?

I've installed Cliffy's ball eject protectors on four or five games. If I can do it, anyone can.

Gweem
Do you use this protector as well?
http://www.pinballlife.com/index.php?p=product&id=2120

Cliffy, your shooter protector is great but only protects one side of the shooter lane. The opposite side also takes a beating as does the bottom of the lane where the plunger is. There is nothing wrong with your protector and feel they are a must on every game, but even with the cliffy some areas are still left unprotected. So the best protection right now is a cliffy + mylar (or fake mylar).

Not really just look for the thinnest you can find and make sure it is a light adhesive so you can remove easily if need be. I've found some in the past on Amazon and a fellow pinsider hooked me up with some.

I definitely get the Cliffy shooter lane protector but the vinyls on good portion of the lane provides some extra protection on a high wear area. I've been impressed by how well it prevents wear. Sounds like the patches you have are very similar to what I'm talking about.

That is very important for pins that have balls hitting wood side walls when ejected. I highly recommend that product if ejecting is hitting bare wood otherwise eventually you will have a divot.

Thanks Dude my SM already has a small divot from ball strikes there
I think I will order one of these for my ac/dc and SM

Yes. I put one of those on every game that requires it. Sometimes you have to slightly move the bubble level to install it.

Yes. http://www.passionforpinball.com/ballejects.htm

Cliffy, your shooter protector is great but only protects one side of the shooter lane. The opposite side also takes a beating as does the bottom of the lane where the plunger is.

Although not yet on my site I *DO* make a right side shooter groove protector too. Originally designed for Monster Bash they also work well with Sterns. Here's a pic sent to me by Rens H. testing for me in the Netherlands. This is ACDC but for the most part Sterns are fairly generic on that side

Rens-acdc-rtsideEJ1.JPG

That's awesome Cliff! It will completely eliminate the need for mylar in the shooter lane. Another interesting thing about that picture is that Rens didn't move the bubble. He just laid it right on top of your protector. Seems like kind of an odd way to go. Did he have to drill a hole through the metal to do this, or is the protector notched there?

The strike plate is NOT my protector. Mine is the one down on the playfield UNDER the black rail. The strike plate is available from Terry at pinballlife.com and is a generic guard made by Stern, I believe.

Here's a pic of my right side shooter eject protector;

rt-side-eject.JPG

I'm confused, do you make different size protectors for the left side? The cliffy I got for AC/DC doesn't cover the painted black line completely, so I had to still mylar the shooter. That picture shows it is covering the entire area.

Ah, got it. I thought it was all one piece. Two separate pieces makes way more sense.

The multifit is all the same. The pic on my web page is here showing acdc covering the black line;
http://www.passionforpinball.com/balleject/NMacdcEJ2.jpg

They do have slotted mount holes to allow adjustment in or out. If yours is adjusted all the way out and still not covering you might have one from a bad batch from about a year ago. I thought I had all of them weeded out but maybe not. There's a thread regarding this. My laser guy cut the holes too low which made them really not cover much of anything. Send me a pic of yours and I can tell ya.

Okay thanks. I'll send you a pic when I get home. Hopefully I just need to adjust it a bit.

BTW, any news on a Cliffy for the Bell kickout hole in AC/DC?