This is not a surprise....Stern, CGC (MB), and JJP (with DI) both have tried to make their own protectors, and they are horrible. Their all too cheap to actually purchase directly from Cliff whose product is far superior...
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Quoted from woody76:I don't think the problem is them being cheap, but cliffy can't keep up with the demand of supplying Stern, JJP and the community at the same time. I could be wrong, but it sure seems that way with people having to wait 2-3 months on orders.
Trust me its a cost issue....yes Cliff has some long lead times (although he's always been quick on my end), but he had a good plan to scale, but the manufacturers were too cheap so they went in another direction....
Quoted from woody76:gotcha, i was out of pinball for a bit but seems like I remember talking to him and he did say something like this. I think JJP actually make their own in house. Why reinvent the wheel? Clif been doing this a long time and perfected it
I've never understood why manufacturers don't install these protectors at the factory, because some are a complete pain in the ass to install. Also the OP should change the title as its very misleading
He's the best and has always put up with me stopping by his house and picking up my protectors (on short notice)....I'd never buy protectors from anyone else
Quoted from Gexchange:I don't think cliffy could do 400 protectors a week to feed Stern. Plus I would feel bad for the guys poor hands
He had a plan to do so, but the manufacturers were too cheap to pay for his protectors...which isn't a surprise ....are you saying Stern pumps out 20K games a year?
Quoted from Gexchange:at 100% production every week of the year they are capable of.. Yes
Not to be critical, but capacity is very different than actual builds....my bet is they build half that many, which is a lot more than anyone else....that being said Stern, and JJP are Waaaaayyyy too cheap to actually pay Cliff for quality protectors.....Cliff is better off doing what he's doing
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