That sucks. There is no way that should have happened if the playfield was cleared properly.

Just put light adhesive Mylar/vinyl around magnets very durable and almost unnoticeable.

Your lucky.

This is an easy fix. Put a . Layer of hard as nails, let dry, do it again then use 1000 grit and lightly sand, fill it in with black marker, Put a Mylar circle down on top. You'll never know that ever happened.

Holy shit, I just realized today mine is curling up as well. I'm afraid to peel it off!

You probably need to go in and scrape the glue before you peel it up

Yeh, its not Cliffy's fault at all. When you put mylar or glue on a PF and pull it up, you take a risk. Those putting mylar on shooter lanes are going to have issues if they pull it up.

Not is you use the normal/proper ways to remove mylar

I just checked, mine is curling too! I followed the instructions completely when putting it down. How do I go about getting it off without pulling up part of the pf?

This happened on my xmen magnets, the cliffy circles started to curl and warp. I pulled them up, no damage to the PF. I installed Mylar circles from pinballlife, no issues. I think the heat from the magnet is killing these.

How do you install the mylar circles, right on top of the magnet, or do you cut the magnet area out and make it like a mylar donut?

You put the Mylar circles right over the magnet, they are slightly larger so the edges are outside of the magnet edges.

Brad

I have the mylar circles over mine and they are cooked up at 150 plays

I helped Cliffy in making the PDF. I had it also curling up, luckily with me it came off without any damage. When installing replacement I made a small guide to lighten the burden on Cliffy's shoulders. Ater all we want him developing new products and not spending his time behind a keyboard

The PDF is up on Cliffy's website, http://www.passionforpinball.com/Metallica/Magnet%20protector%20guide.pdf

I would cut out the magnet on the mylar circle. The ball will chew thru the mylar in short order if you don't. Besides, you are not trying to protect the magnet, just the playfield.

Would a hair dryer work to soften the glue before removing?

I find the later sterns since say xmen and on to have awesome quality and the best clear coat in years. I definitely blame the addon product you glued on and peeled off after it heated up by a magnet in a hundred plays. Not the clear coat.

Agree with Mark.

None of my Sterns have anything on the magnets ... No Mylar, no nothing, and not one has any wear around it.

Make sure your magnet pole is at the correct height, that's a good start. Too low, you'll have a problem.

rd

My METPRO has over 600 plays, I installed the Mylar circles after it was pulled out of the box and they look like day one. I can only assume I don't activate the magnets as much as others.

Brad

Sorry to hear dubbs. I bought these cliffys but never installed them.

I agree I bought them but never installed them, HUO probably don't need them

Of course, it's the heat - never thought of that.

Mylar circles have done me fine - 1000 plays on IM - changed them a couple of times. Wax first and then stick on.

would a 1-2 ohm resistor maybe lessen some heat (some strength too sure) generated by the magnet?
how really strong does the magnetic force need to be to adequately get the job done? possible solution that'd extend the life of the electromagnet maybe?

Magnets dying aren't a problem and really don't need a solution either.

I installed the same protector, as the balled traveled over the ring it caused the ring to bend/warp. When I removed it the art work came off not to mention the ring dug into the playfield. I'd never recommend these to anyone. Very unhappy.

Is this the exact same type of protector that's used on Star Trek? I ordered the entire set, but never installed the magnet one. After reading this, I'd be even more reluctant to do so.

About 1/3 of the magnet on my Met Pro is curling. The other 2/3 still stuck tight. I would like to remove without lifting any ink. I am told that to remove the magnet protector I need to soften the 3M adhesive with a citrus solvent such as Goo Gone. I am confused. How and where do I put the Goo Gone on the 2/3 that is still stuck to the pf.

I had it on my MET and now on my ST - I made sure magnet alignment was just above playfield and installed Cliffy and then made magnet flat again.. Never a problem

If the ring is installed flush with the PF how could it bend, warp ? I am not doubting - simply wondering..

I don't have any of these rings, but my guess is the ball rolling/skidding across and striking only the top surface could peen the surface, producing a curling or cupping effect.

Edit: I'm not saying anything negative about Cliffy's stuff as Cliffy makes great stuff. I have at least one of his protectors on 18 of my 19 machines. I'm just answering the question as to what might be causing the curling.

I have never used the goo gone. What is the best way to use this? How do you make sure it gets under the protector to loosen? Thanks, Mike

You need to get the Goo Gone under the ring, so it can dissolve the glue.

So the part of the ring that has lifted, needs the GG under it.

As more of the ring lifts, add more GG to the newly exposed area.

My METLE gets a lot of use, the magnet ring warped from the ball skipping across it. It's a piece of metal sitting on wood. The material is so thin that the weight of the ball caused it to warp up. Plus it seems the ball skips over it. I'd never installed it if I knew this was going to be the out come. If you don't plays your game much maybe you'll never see the issue. My advise is leave it alone and don't tape metal rings on your playfield.

Perhaps, but if you don't play you game much, there is no need for a protector in the first place.

Bummer guys. All my Cliffy stuff is holding up great and doing its job perfectly. However, I only have the scoop, ramp and shooter lane protectors. No magnet rings.

I've got a full set, including the magnet ring, on my Star Trek. No problems so far, but thanks for the info. I'm going to adjust my magnet height to be extra safe.

I must say that I'm brand new to this hobby and I'm really impressed with Cliff's products.

Of the three metallica pro I've had through here, we all felt the clear was extremely think. Sounds like yours was a unique case not the norm.

Here is what I came up with for protecting my magnets. Keep in mind that my machines do not see much use at all. I thought about getting the cliffys, then I figured I would try this. I used my vinyl cutter to make these simple vinyl overlays which when there is signs of wear can be just removed. I tried to color match what is around the magnet to make it look more factory. These don't offer the same thick protection as the cliffys do. What do you guys think?

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I think they look great! I'll take a set!

Looks great.

I don't think this is heat related at all, more so the ball stretching the metal on the protector closest to the magnet . It thins out and stretches and has no where to go and causes the curling effect. If it was heat related I feel that amount of heat it would take to warp the stainless would bake the Clear / paint first. A redesign of the protector with expansion slots could prolong the life span of the part. ( 4 slots cut from the inside of the ring almost to the outside edge 3 or 4 thousandth so the stretched metal has a place to go as the ball "dollies" it out thinner.

I would imagine you could use a plastic razor blade or a sharpened credit card under a lifted edge and touch the ring with your soldering iron and slide the blade under as it lifts.
If the ball has fractured the clear under the protector the black ring is going to come up with it no matter what you do.

Cliffy made me one for my x-men that is wide in the stroke of the metal , same thickness but instead of 1/4 wide stroke he made me one with 3/8 width , old one on left new one on right , have not installed it . thinking more surface area for glue to stick 2014-03-31 18.54.07.jpg