(Topic ID: 52606)

Clear coating !!!

By PinDescabarian

10 years ago


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  • Latest reply 10 years ago by beepnutz
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“Would you re clear coat a new factory play field from Stern if you could?”

  • Yes 29 votes
    85%
  • No 5 votes
    15%

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#3 10 years ago

If one of your balls gets a nick on it, it can do a lot of damage before you might notice.

I clear new playfields.

It lets me become intimately familiar with the game upon reassembly and I have a protected playfield that looks like glass.

#5 10 years ago

Yes, clear does not stick to Mylar very well, so it has to come off.

For a beginner, nothing is easier to lay down and get perfect than JC660

http://www.bapspaint.com/docs/psheets/PPG/Automotive/Shopline/JC660.pdf

#7 10 years ago

If you painted cars for a month professionally, you are overqualified to clear playfields.

Plus you clear them flat on their backs, so no runs or drips!

#8 10 years ago
Quoted from PinDescabarian:

If not what would you use to spray?

I've got some Devilbiss guns, but honestly, I've used the $10 Harbor Freight HVLP guns many times when away from my own shop and they work perfectly.

#10 10 years ago

Sometimes with old Ballys, the "heat' from the clear can react with the plastic of the inserts and make little spots. On those games, I mix the fastest hardener with the clear so it does not have time to react.

I also have some real Diamond Plate clear that I use.

But if you have never done a playfield before, stick with the PPG.

#12 10 years ago
Quoted from PinDescabarian:

Cool thanks Vid. One more question for you....Should I sand the playfields old clear off..to the top paint...what recommendations for sanding? Grit and what not?

Don't even try sanding off the clear coat.

It's not a real clear coat like you are thinking, it's often just a layer of clear silkscreen over the last batch of ink.

Just lightly scuff up the surface with around 800 grit to give the new clear some "tooth"

#15 10 years ago

The next update to my Playfield Restoration Guide will be clear coating, so if you have any doubts in your mind, wait until you read all the details.

http://pinside.com/pinball/forum/topic/vids-guide-to-ultimate-playfield-restoration

#16 10 years ago
Quoted from denmark71:

I am wondering how it will look with the large clear window?

That is the 10000$ question...

Maybe mask it off and feather in.

Myself, I'd hate to put it under more clear in case it hazes or needs to be totally replaced one day.

#26 10 years ago

I'm working on the road, so I can't really spray in my hotel room (although I have a complete solder/rework station spread out over the desk in the room).

Hopefully it won't be too long. In the meantime if someone has questions, I'll keep answerin'.

#27 10 years ago
Quoted from Pinballdad:

vid1900. special thanks about the drip issue being way less risky for PF's since being sprayed flat/horizontal. After I thought about that comment a bit, it makes sense and helps takes some fear out of me trying this down the road.

Don't be afraid to practice on a crap playfield, or just a painted piece of plywood.

You will be pleasantly surprised on how much build you get in a single coat of clear (maybe 4x what a coat of poly builds), and how high of a gloss you can put on it (maybe 3x over poly).

Spraying coats 10 minutes apart does not suck either.....

#30 10 years ago
Quoted from Shapeshifter:

Er, I have seen Stern playfields with wear where the ball disappears, after 200 plays. Some have more wear there than my BSD which has had 40000 plays!!!

All it takes is a nicked ball....

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