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Cleaning up an old Williams Grand Prix


By Pablito350

1 year ago



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#1 1 year ago

Being relatively new to collecting machines we never had any experience with EM's until a few months ago when we fixed up an old River Boat. It was quite a challenge, and was incredibly rewarding bring this back to life. You can read about it here:
https://pinside.com/pinball/forum/topic/cleaning-up-an-old-river-boat#post-4914233

One machine we lusted after was a Grand Prix. Feeling confident that I could actually make my way through fixing an EM I was ready for one.... if we could only find one.

About a month ago I got home after a long day of work when Chrissi (my wife) shouted out from the other room that someone was selling a Grand Prix for a hundred bucks, and he was only 80 miles away. She found an ad on facebook marketplace that simply said "Coin operated racing game $100", and included a picture of a Grand Prix.

I immediately thought it was a scam, and suggested she message the seller that we'll be there in an hour with cash (not expecting a reply). Sure enough the seller said it was his Dad's machine, just wanted it out of his barn/shed, and gave us an address to come and get it.

She continued pressing for details as I was getting our pin-hauler, hand truck and tools ready for what might be the deal of the century. Within minutes we were gassed up, and headed to pick it up now convinced that it was not a scam at all.

When we got there an older gentleman opened up the door to his shed, and right there in the middle of the room was a filthy, but mostly complete Grand Prix! We got to talking about why he was selling it, and he simply said that he's had it for 30 years, and it was just too expensive to have someone come out to fix it. He just couldn't justify keeping it anymore especially with his kids all grown up and out of the house. He powered it up, but could not get it to reset as the score reels were all gummed up, and I just shut it off. I simply gave it a quick look over, mostly to see if there were any rodents of termites we'd be loading into our car, and to see what parts were missing. While there was some animal that spent some time in the cabinet none of the wiring was chewed up, and there really wasn't any damage inside. the only indication that something was inside it at one point was a chewed up instruction placard, and a few acorns by the coin door.

I gave him the cash, and said I'd handle everything from here on out. I took the head and legs off while talking to him about his time with the machine, and I could tell that he was really sad to see it go. When I told him that I'd clean it all up, get it working again, and send him pictures of it all done he smiled and said that he'd love to see it returned to it's former glory.

So anyway on the ride home Chrissi and I just sat there saying that this was just stupid. Stupid in that deals like this don't really happen to us, and we just giggled all the way home. Grand prix was a game we really like, and were looking for for quite some time.

We got home around 10pm and reassembled the machine in the garage so the next day I could spend some time with it forming a plan for what it needs.

Here are a few pics from that night.

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As you can see it's mostly all there, but filthy.

More to come...

-Paul

#2 1 year ago

The next day I was able to spend an hour or two looking things over to assess what has to be done. Here are a few pics to show you just how dirty it was.

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I think that ball was new.... in 1990.

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Note the missing spinner..... that's what this game is all about!
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And here you can see the bite marks on the placard.
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So overall while filthy there's a little wear on the playfield, and I think it'll clean up nicely.

-Paul

#3 1 year ago

So the next day I wanted to get a start on cleaning this thing up before I bring it in the house so I removed the bottom board..
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Set it aside for cleaning later,
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and gave it a good cleaning.
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and removed some nuts.
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With the cabinet cleaned out I brought it into the game room, and started cleaning up the playfield.
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After a few hours of deep cleaning..
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I popped out a couple of inserts that were already falling out to be glued back in later.
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There are a few places I'll need to touch up with an airbrush, but overall I'm pleased at its condition. I'm not looking to make a show piece with this machine, but I'm going to try to make it look and play as nice as I can.

I'm even considering clearcoating it after the touchups to lock everything in. I don't know yet.

What are your thoughts?

-Paul

#4 1 year ago

With the playfield relatively clean I decided to repaint the cabinet. While it was pretty clean I couldn't get the head to come out as white as the cabinet. The more I cleaned the head, the more of the graphics I was removing yet it was still yellowed.

Having made the decision to repaint, an order for stencils from Pinball Pimp was made.

While prepping the cabinet I found the bottom - rear falling apart. The back of the cabinet is MDF and was just flaking off so I had to repair it.

I cut out the damaged wood and glued in a piece that will be blended in later.
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There was also a section of the ply that was missing along the bottom edge of one of the sides I filled in with a paint mixing stick.
To prevent further cracking I coated all the exposed edges of the plywood with glue.
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You can also see that the bottom panel is in great shape and will sand out nicely.

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With all the glue drying I primed and filled in all the imperfections to get it ready for paint.

-Paul

#5 1 year ago

More filling and sanding....
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While that was all drying I took advantage of the great sunny day and cleaned up everything on the bottom panel.
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You can see how much dirt came off!

I used a soft paintbrush with some diluted super clean to dislodge all the dirt.
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Then followed it up with a little hot water to wash it all away.
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Then after blowing out as much water as I could with a blow gun I set it in the sun all afternoon to dry.
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-Paul

#6 1 year ago

More filling, sanding and priming...

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We're getting there. We're laying down some paint!
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I decided to paint the area inside the coin door white.. It just looks nicer.
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With everything painted white it'll set for about a week before I can start stenciling all the graphics.

-Paul

#7 1 year ago

About a week later the stencils arrived, and it was time to just do it. Now... I have to admit this is the first time I've ever painted anything using stencils. Due to the cost of them I wasn't as eager to jump right in as I've been with everything else, but you learn by doing... so here goes nothing!

As per the directions we start with the red.
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Now... those five pictures above are the result of a near nervous breakdown!

First off I planned on using acrylic paint thinned to spray out of my Badger Anthem 155 that I've used extensively over the last 20 years painting scale models. Unfortunately I decided to use cheap craft store paint that gelled up and made an utter mess no matter what I used to thin it. It was like the paint was actually a latex paint that was mis-bottled at the factory or something. In hindsight this shitty paint would make for some excellent webbing if needed.

After 4 separate, and frustrating attempts I said fuck it, and decided to just get a can of spray paint to salvage the stencils.

While it looks good there's actually 2 different reds on there, and to the casual observer it'd go unnoticed.

Man I hope the blue goes on better.

-Paul

#8 1 year ago
Quoted from Pablito350:

The next day I was able to spend an hour or two looking things over to assess what has to be done. Here are a few pics to show you just how dirty it was.

Wow there are "sunken inserts" and then there's that one!

Well job already...looking forward to it.

#9 1 year ago

Following this! Keep going, this is going great... can't wait to see this completed, it is going to look amazing. You are doing an awesome job. I think it is funny how every grand prix has a sunken left bonus arrow. Great game... I play the hell out of mine.

#10 1 year ago

Looking really good Paul. This will turn out really nice due to your hard work.

#11 1 year ago

It's been 3 days after the red paint fiasco cured, and it's time to shoot the blue.

One thing I noticed on these stencils is that it doesn't have a provision for the blue scoop on the front of the cabinet. Mine has it, and I wanted it there so I'll have to modify the stencil a bit. It seems fifty-fifty on cabinets that has this blue scoop, and those that don't. In the Williams brochure it doesn't show it, but in pics posted online of these pins, there are many like mine that have it.

I took measurements from the original paint, and just cut out the stencil.
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It's not complicated, and the registration points that PinballPimp makes into these stencils take all they guess work out of it. It really is a great system!

Let's get to spraying some blue!
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It's only two thin coats I laid down. I just stopped spraying as soon as I got complete coverage.

5 minutes later it was time to see the result.
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Man the blue artwork really completes the look. With just the red sprayed it just looks.... blah... not impressed.
But now... WOW! I'm happy with this! These stencils ROCK!

With the cabinet baking in the sun I finished the blue on the head.
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After an hour in the sun I shot 4 - 5 coats of matte clear to seal everything in, and to knock down the gloss to make it more period correct. Most of the EM's I see aren't as glossy as newer games so I went with a matte finish.

And this bring us to today 6/7. It's been a few days since the clear was shot, and I'm ready to get it on new legs to bring inside.
Tonight I started on the coin door, and the side rails. They will be polished and installed when I get time to do it.

So far all the work done has taken about a month's time working on it whenever I found time.

More to come.

-Paul

#12 1 year ago
Quoted from TheLaw:

Wow there are "sunken inserts" and then there's that one!
Well job already...looking forward to it.

Yeah there are quite a few. The large arrows will just be reset and glued. One of them is actually warped so it'll have to go under the heat gun to flatten out before reinstalling.

Most of the other inserts are actually cupped, and will be filled in with clear...... I think...... Haven't decided yet.

Quoted from spinout:

Following this! Keep going, this is going great... can't wait to see this completed, it is going to look amazing. You are doing an awesome job. I think it is funny how every grand prix has a sunken left bonus arrow. Great game... I play the hell out of mine.

Thank you! The previous owner must've played it a lot with the insert falling through judging by the looks of the wear pattern. After it's all done it's going to be a keeper.

Quoted from Dr_Gonzo:

Looking really good Paul. This will turn out really nice due to your hard work.

Thank you sir. I hope you're right!

#13 1 year ago

On a side note does anyone have an extra williams coin slot logo plate for sale?

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#14 1 year ago

Part number 16A-8636 Dummy Williams Logo plate is now "No Longer Available". Not reproduced so you need to make your own out of 1/16" thick aluminum plate cut to size.

#15 1 year ago
Quoted from KenLayton:

Part number 16A-8636 Dummy Williams Logo plate is now "No Longer Available". Not reproduced so you need to make your own out of 1/16" thick aluminum plate cut to size.

Thanks Ken. I'll make up a decal for the one I've got then. It'll clean up.

#16 1 year ago

Great thread, this was the first or second pinball I had ever played when I was 4 or 5 years old.

#17 1 year ago

following, love my GP, think it's the best 4 player EM there is! Congrats on the Barn find!!!

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#18 1 year ago

Just a small update.

Work has been a little crazy lately so I haven't spent as much time as I'd like to on the Grand Prix. I did however get a chance to put on new legs and brackets, and brought it into the game room (that is also undergoing a renovation). Also painted the neck black.
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Figured I'd also bolt on the head just to see how it looks.
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Then I put it in the lineup!
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But then the dreaded Pin-Inspector "Bubbs" arrived to check out my work. I don't know if he approves it or not, but being that he didn't shit in the empty cabinet I'll take it as a good thing.
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I'm currently in the process of rebuilding the chime box, and polishing up the side rails, coin door, and all the other cabinet parts.

More coming soon.

-Paul

1 week later
#19 1 year ago

Looks like Bubbs approves. GP is a great pin. It’s the pin that got me into pinball. Fantastic restoration. Keep the updates coming!

#20 1 year ago

Great cabinet restauration!
Just completed the same.
Wish i would have seen your post earlier.
Would have gladly sent you my paint templates.
I make them from 1/8" mdf boards.
They are reusable, but i won't be using them again anytime soon!

Mine did not have that blue scoop either.
But the left side original art had a interesting defect. Can you spot it?

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#21 1 year ago

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#22 1 year ago
Quoted from Toucanf16:

Looks like Bubbs approves. GP is a great pin. It’s the pin that got me into pinball. Fantastic restoration. Keep the updates coming!

Thanks.

It's been slow going with the rotation of parts in, and out of the tumbler so not much to update here.

Quoted from Fred736:

Great cabinet restauration!
Just completed the same.
Wish i would have seen your post earlier.
Would have gladly sent you my paint templates.
I make them from 1/8" mdf boards.
They are reusable, but i won't be using them again anytime soon!
Mine did not have that blue scoop either.
But the left side original art had a interesting defect. Can you spot it?[quoted image][quoted image][quoted image][quoted image]

Oh mine does have the scoop that's why i hat to cut a provision for that in the template.

Your cabinet looks awesome! Did you keep the backwards 7 when you repainted it?

-Paul

#23 1 year ago
Quoted from Pablito350:

Your cabinet looks awesome! Did you keep the backwards 7 when you repainted it?
-Paul

Good eye!
Yep, kept the backward 7. Im a stickler for restaurations to original condition.
(In all honesty, it saved me from having a different template for left and right sides. And a good excuse to do so . Plus makes for a good talk with friends around the pin.)

#24 1 year ago
Quoted from Fred736:

Good eye!
Yep, kept the backward 7. Im a stickler for restaurations to original condition.
(In all honesty, it saved me from having a different template for left and right sides. And a good excuse to do so . Plus makes for a good talk with friends around the pin.)

You can just hear the guys on the assembly line back in the day:

"Where's the other template?"

"Ehhhh... just flip it and use that one. No one will notice!"

It's great that you kept it that way.

-Paul

1 week later
#25 1 year ago

Just a small update today.

I was finally able to spend a little time working on it, and got a few things done.

First I rebuilt the chime box with the kit from PBR after everything was cleaned.
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Then I installed it in the cabinet along with the knocker.
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And the coin box lock bracket. (You can see the lockdown bar receiver all cleaned up inside along with the play field prop bar installed)
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Polished up the shooter rod, and housing. Installed it with a new white tip, sleeve, and barrel spring.
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Then cleaned, and installed the start, and flipper buttons.
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On the bottom mech panel I started cleaning the ball count, and coin count steppers, and should be installing it back into the cabinet tomorrow.
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And that's about all I took pics of today. I am almost done straightening out, and polishing the coin door.

I'm not sure how far I want to take it though.... looking for advice.
Do I buff it out to a high polish, or keep it as a brushed finish?

If I polish it it I'll have to make it as straight as a pin, and smooth as glass which will take quite a bit of time.
Then..

If I bring it to a high polish I think I'll also have to do the same for the lockdown bar and side rails.

Decisions... decisions...

Thanks for your thoughts.

-Paul

#26 1 year ago

Made a little more progress today.

Disassembled and cleaned both steppers, and made sure they were adjusted properly. I had to realign the bakelite board so that the fingers were centered at each step along their paths.

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Both cleaned up nicely.

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I then added a new power cord and dropped it into the cabinet.

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From there I added the flipper, start, and tilt wiring back inside. Now the cabinet is mostly done. I should be finished with the lockdown bar and coin door shortly.

Chrissi did a great job cleaning/painting behind the backglass to make everything bright again. Here's the before and after.
I'll soon attack all the score reels, and add new dummy reel decals.

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Now it's on to the underside of the playfield. This is where the previous owner said there were issues. I already found quite a few of them.

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And that's all I got for today. Up next should be finishing and installing the coin door, and side rails.
After that the playfield will go onto the rotisserie for some touch-ups and clear coat.

-Paul

2 weeks later
#27 1 year ago

Been a while since the last update as it's been pretty busy around here.

So I got the playfield up on a rotisserie so I can get back to work on this thing.
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First up was the shooter lane. I cleaned it all out with naptha so I can see it in all it's nastiness.
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This is what years of neglect look like.
I'm not sure I can save this one because it looks like I'd have to remove too much material to make it smooth. I may have to resort to filling it all in and painting it. We'll see.

So first off I used different sized sockets wrapped in 120 grit paper.
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Then I hit it with some 220.
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And finally some 400.
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While sanding I blew out all of the sawdust hoping to keep it from filling in all of the voids, and wiped it down with more naptha.

I'm hesitant to sand any further because I want to ensure that the ball would still be centered in the lane with the plunger. I also took a long straight edge to see if I was getting any lumps or valleys from all the sanding.

I'm happy with how smooth it is now. I'm not happy with how it looks. There's a weird grain pattern that almost looks like snakeskin. There are still perpendicular lines going across the lane as well.

I think I'm going to sand just a little bit more, and see where I stand.
All in all I've only removed about 1/16" of material.

-Paul

#28 1 year ago

Keep the updates coming.

#30 1 year ago
Quoted from Pablito350:

First up was the shooter lane. I cleaned it all out with naptha so I can see it in all it's nastiness.

Youre doing a great job. Went thru the same nastiness with mine. Had to go pretty deep but didnt have to go too wide. Filled and reshaped with bondo. Then had to do something to blend that bondo. Never liked the faux wood airbrushing technique. So i tried a little "ad-libbing". Youll recognize the patern from the tyres.
My other options were a checkered flag pattern or a series of triangles just like the spinner insert lane.

That snakeskin pattern you see is carbon dust and grime that has been pounded into the grain of the second layer of plywood. Youll have to go pretty deep to remove it all be sanding. Better to just sand to sound wood, fill, reshape and paint with either faux-wood pattern or some other pattern. To help the bondo bite into the wood, i took a Dremel with a small flat endmill to the wood and made a whole bunch of notches in it.

Once done reshaping, this is how the ball layed in the lane. Touching only on the sides where I still had some sound wood. Preferred it touching wood rather than Bondo. Although there will be a few coats of clear over that. I honestly dont know if that's good or bad. Remember asking around (maybe asked Vid cant remember) and his response was not to worry about that too much. So time will tell.

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#31 1 year ago
Quoted from Fred736:

Youre doing a great job. Went thru the same nastiness with mine. Had to go pretty deep but didnt have to go too wide. Filled and reshaped with bondo. Then had to do something to blend that bondo. Never liked the faux wood airbrushing technique. So i tried a little "ad-libbing". Youll recognize the patern from the tyres.
My other options were a checkered flag pattern or a series of triangles just like the spinner insert lane.
That snakeskin pattern you see is carbon dust and grime that has been pounded into the grain of the second layer of plywood. Youll have to go pretty deep to remove it all be sanding. Better to just sand to sound wood, fill, reshape and paint with either faux-wood pattern or some other pattern. To help the bondo bite into the wood, i took a Dremel with a small flat endmill to the wood and made a whole bunch of notches in it.
Once done reshaping, this is how the ball layed in the lane. Touching only on the sides where I still had some sound wood. Preferred it touching wood rather than Bondo. Although there will be a few coats of clear over that. I honestly dont know if that's good or bad. Remember asking around (maybe asked Vid cant remember) and his response was not to worry about that too much. So time will tell.[quoted image][quoted image]

WOW! That came out really nice!

I was wondering how I was going to paint it if I chose to fill it. While I love the look of the real wood I'm not too confident I'd be able to pull it off without getting frustrated. After all this game isn't being fixed up for sale. It's going to be a keeper that we're going to have to look at every time we play it.

One thing I did notice however is that the plies in this wood appear to be fairly thick. So thick in fact that I think the entire lane is in the top ply alone. If that is the case I would only have to replicate the color tone of that ply, and go from there. I'd only have to match it to the wood surrounding the lane, and blend it in with only a few imperfections to make it look real. I wouldn't have to replicate the darker toned 'V' from the 2nd ply that you see in shooter lanes of playfields that have thinner plies.

Unfortunately I haven't spent enough time since my last post on it to make that determination. I'm going to try to sand it a little more to see where that gets me. If it still looks like ass I'll have to fill, and repaint. In speaking of sanding, the socket I used in one of the pictures was just to see what was closest to the shape of the lane. I actually ended up using a smaller socket to hit the low spots better. The width of the lane wasn't altered much as the wood there cleaned up nicely with only a few passes.

Painting the lane like a checkered flag is intriguing though!

Thanks Fred for your input! It is very much appreciated, and gives me some more options I hadn't considered before.

-Paul

#32 1 year ago

Nice to see another game being resurrected! I expect you will find a nice playfield under all that grime. Enjoy- its worth it- it is one of my favorite games in my collection.

2 months later
#33 11 months ago

Well it's been a while since I've updated this due to life, and another pinball refurbishment getting in the way.

Where I left off was this hot mess of a shooter lane.
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Through lots of sanding, filing, more sanding, some painting, more sanding, more painting, here's where I ended up.
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That's more like it! When wiped down with naptha it blends in a little better than what it looks like in the above pics. I still may tweak it a bit more, but it's come a long way, and I'm happy with it.

Now on to the inserts.
Most of the small 3/4" inserts on the bonus ladders just needed to be cleaned and reglued with epoxy. If the insert easily popped out with finger pressure it was reset flush then reglued. All of the larger inserts were barley held in place do all of them were removed, cleaned, primed, and epoxied back in place. (You can still see some of the original dabs of glue on them. I left them there)
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I simply taped the insert on the playfield side to keep it flush while the epoxy cured. I occasionally felt and adjusted them with my fingers during the curing process to ensure they sat flush.
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After the curing I hand-painted all of the black keylines around each insert to be later sealed under the clearcoat.
Here you can see the difference with the #3 and #4 painted compared to the unpainted #1, and #2.
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This was done for all 57 or so inserts.
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Now to replace the worn off paint as best I could.

Here you can see the "Advances Left Bonus" arrow had wear from the ball trail.
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First I painted in the missing black keylines.
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Then filled in the red.
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I also did the same for the left and right bonus kickers.
The before:
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And after:
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Not perfect by any means, but perfectly acceptable.

Then it was just touching up little spots all over with paint.
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And that bring us to a point where after a little sanding of the drop target and kickout holes I should have this in clear hopefully by the end of the weekend!
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I've reached a point where I'm happy with where this playfield is. This was never intended to be a perfect restoration where I'd block paint each area, and decal everything. The end goal was simply to have a nice, clean, and smooth original example that'll be protected for another 40+years of playing. Later down the road if I or someone else wants to go all out on it, then it'll be at a great starting point.

It was getting a little crazy during the touch-ups because the more I looked for opportunities for improvement, the more I found. As the problem areas got smaller and smaller I reached a point where I just had to put the brushes down. It looks good.

Next up is to drip in come clear around each insert to fill in any gaps, and to fill in a couple of cupped ones.

This should progress faster now so updates will be way more frequent.

-Paul

#34 11 months ago

Just a few more pics to show how the shooter lane, and keylines around all of the inserts came out.
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-Paul

#35 11 months ago

And a quick
before...
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and after.
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More to come.

-Paul

#36 11 months ago

Looks so good!

#37 11 months ago
Quoted from mrm_4:

Looks so good!

Thanks!

It will be in the clear shortly.

-Paul

#38 11 months ago

So today I had some time to spend on clearing the playfield to preserve and protect all of the artwork, and touch-ups.

I laid down 3 coats and realized that I still have more work to do. I thought I'd be able to spray around the inserts to fill in some of the gaps, but it didn't. I'm going to have to fill them in with an eyedropper and repeat the process.

It feels good to know that everything is locked down under 3 coats, and protected.

Here's some pics I took during the process.

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Some time later in the week I'll start filling them in, and see where I stand next weekend.

On a side note I'm very happy with how the shooter lane came out. While the color is a little too dark it'll hardly be noticed once the rails are on, and under glass.

-Paul

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#39 11 months ago

Shooter lane looks good. Nice work!

#40 11 months ago
Quoted from Toucanf16:

Shooter lane looks good. Nice work!

Thanks! I was worried about it with it as bad as it was before.

-Paul

#41 11 months ago

Just a few more pics as it's leveling out.

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-Paul

#42 11 months ago
Quoted from Toucanf16:

Shooter lane looks good. Nice work!

I agree, that shooter lane looks very nice, I think the color looks just fine.

#43 11 months ago

what product did you use to clear it with?

#44 11 months ago
Quoted from ReadyPO:

I agree, that shooter lane looks very nice, I think the color looks just fine.

Thank you!

Quoted from mrm_4:

what product did you use to clear it with?

I used Spraymax 2PAC aerosol cans. I use my HVLP setup for cars, but for something this small I wanted to give it a try just for the convenience of it.

-Paul

#45 11 months ago
Quoted from Pablito350:

Thank you!

I used Spraymax 2PAC aerosol cans. I use my HVLP setup for cars, but for something this small I wanted to give it a try just for the convenience of it.
-Paul

Stuffs awesome!

1 week later
#46 11 months ago

@fred736 mine has the same backwards 7and Is also missing the scoop
Must have been Monday.
@pablito350 and @fred736 Could you share the paint type and colors, I’ll be redoing
mine soon
Thanks
Jim

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#47 11 months ago
Quoted from Liftserv:

@pablito350 and @fred736 Could you share the paint type and colors, I’ll be redoing
mine soon
Thanks
Jim[quoted image]

Don't go by the colors I used. I picked a brighter white, and a darker blue for ours because I wanted to.

If you want the stock colors you're probably going to have to mix it yourself, or just pick something close enough.

-Paul

#48 11 months ago
Quoted from Pablito350:

Don't go by the colors I used. I picked a brighter white, and a darker blue for ours because I wanted to.
If you want the stock colors you're probably going to have to mix it yourself, or just pick something close enough.
-Paul

Thanks Paul
Yours is beautiful

2 weeks later
#49 10 months ago
Quoted from Liftserv:@pablito350 and @fred736 Could you share the paint type and colors, I’ll be redoing
mine soon
Thanks
Jim[quoted image]

Im away from home for a few weeks so im answering from memory.
I use Molotov spray can to paint. And i use a fan cap on the can. If my memory serves me right, i used 'signal red' for the red color. Cant remember what i used for the blue.

PM me with your question, that way i wont forget to answer your question when I'm back home.

#50 10 months ago
Quoted from Fred736:

Im away from home for a few weeks so im answering from memory.
I use Molotov spray can to paint. And i use a fan cap on the can. If my memory serves me right, i used 'signal red' for the red color. Cant remember what i used for the blue.
PM me with your question, that way i wont forget to answer your question when I'm back home.

Thanks fred736 I appreciate the info.
I’m not in a hurry, I still have one project before Grand Prix
Jim

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