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Quoted from Wolfmarsh:That's a pretty cool thought. Stern is doing great right now comparatively to everyone else.
Imagine what they could have accomplished if JPop and SkitB hadn't taken a few million out of circulation....
Or JJP!
Quoted from Wolfmarsh:As in JJP took money out of the market or he could have done a lot with the money JPop and SkitB took?
JJP took money out of the market.
Quoted from Wolfmarsh:Agreed, but he is putting product back into the market, albeit slowly.
giphy.gifQuoted from ecurtz:Modern Stern doesn't own the Classic Stern IP, do they?
When the Pinball Arcade has a classic Stern table, they use the modern Stern label on it.
It would appear that Stern Pinball owns the older IP.
Somebody is licensing it to Pinball Arcade.
Quoted from vid1900:If they price them at $2500 like they did with "The Pin" (The Pins were much more complicated to make than the Classic Sterns), then I can see a bunch of new games in my collection.
Vid, do you know if Stern Pinball own all the IP of Stern Electronics?
They seem to....but I've never seen anything official.
Quoted from Magic_Mike:Why not Sega and Data East pins.
I'd love to see 1991 Data East Batman brought back out, with upgraded sound.
Again, does Stern Pinball own the IP of Stern Electronics? I think they do, but have never had anyone conform this.
Did Gary buy the IP of Stern Electronics at some point in the DE/Sega days?
Quoted from jwilson:I highly doubt they'd re-release licensed games. The licensing world is really different now and I doubt they could afford it.
Licenses often aren't that expensive.
Quoted from jwilson:No, but now you need to negotiate every part separately.
When WMS licensed, say, Demolition Man, they got *everything* - the name, movie footage, still images, actor's likeness, music. Now that's all separate licenses. Check out the ordeal Stern went through for PoTC.
Would be no different then what they did to license the recent Star Trek.
Quoted from snyper2099:I heard his ex-wife owned them. That is pure rumor-mill though.
If you look at Flight 2000 on the Pinball Arcade, it has the modern Stern Pinball logo on it.
That makes me think Stern Pinball owns all of the Stern Electronics IP, but I'd love someone with knowledge on this to chime in.
Quoted from jwilson:Yes, but Star Trek is a current game at a $6500 price point, not a classic Stern at $2500-$3000.
So is Whoa Nellie, with no license.
License isn't the biggest expense.
Quoted from jwilson:Why pay a license fee at all when your most popular classic games don't have one?
The Batman license never goes out of style.
Just got an official response from Stern. They own the intellectual assets to all games going back to Stern Electronics.
Excellent, huh? Maybe we can get a Berzerk pin!
Quoted from LyonsRonnie1:Next question: I wonder if they own the assets of the arcade video games, then? I believe they were made under the same banner.... lots of cool games like Berzerk, Frenzy, Lost Tomb, Minefield, etc.
They said "Every game".
Quoted from jonnyo:One question I have - wasn't the Stern of that era a completely different company? Did they buy the IP?
Yes. And Yes.
Quoted from galaxian:I am pretty sure that the Stren Electronics pinball from the 80's is not the same as Stern Pinball Inc. If I recall reading that Gary's ex-wife got the Stern Electronics IP.
As I already posted earlier in this thread, Stern Pinball has confirmed to me that they own the IP for all games they have ever made, including Stern Electronics.
Quoted from Aurich:I just don't see old Sterns selling all that well. For better or for worse they don't have the cache of old Bally games. People will snap up a new Fathom, but much fewer are going to want a Seawitch.
Several of those are games that Harry Williams designed. Ritchie's idol. Doesn't get better than that. Great games from that time. Flight 2000 has a very sophisticated, unique locking system.
Punch up the sound, tweak a few rules, and they'll be good to go!
Quoted from LyonsRonnie1:Why would a remade classic Stern be cheaper than Whoa Nellie?
Largest expense is development.
Quoted from vid1900:Whoa Nellie has those fancy digital reel displays, a DMD, a crazy custom cabinet, a crazy crate to set it up on, music, speech, and all of the development costs that it took to bring something that unique to market.
No DMD, and the reels are "real".
Quoted from tommyp:It'd be cool if they stopped wasting time with cryptic messages, and started to build machines. IDK about you guys - but they have my $...and I'm still waiting on my machine to ship. Kinda like code updates...more time workey workey...play when you have production and support figured out.
The people running their Facebook account are not the people building machines. Your statement is pointless.
Quoted from vid1900:If you think those are real, you must not own too many EMs.
Call 'em whatever you want, those are fancy fakes.
"WNBJM is NOT an EM" - keep repeating it until it sinks in.
Oh, I know it's not an EM!
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