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Class Action Lawsuit for TBL? The Big Lebowski / Dutch Pinball

By Davidus56

3 years ago

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#135 3 years ago
Quoted from Wolfmarsh:

I hate to butt in, but I think someone should find out from ARA what is owed to release the current games in holding. From past posts, I think that is probably more than $1000 per held machine.
Looks like DP won't give you guys an honest answer yet.

Looking at DP communication it is the original agreed price between ARA and DP plus EUR 1000+ (= USD 1075+). I mentioned already several times that there is a + sign behind the number in DP communication but apparently nobody else notices it. My estimation is thus more than USD 1100.

Plus I suspect that prior to ARA releasing the 40 hostage-pins also the already delivered approx 50 pins have to be paid (original agreed price + extra amount)

#259 3 years ago
Quoted from unigroove:

There is some news: apparently ARA just fired their MD, Rene Versteeg, who I was supposed to call next week... I don't have any insights yet on the reasoning, but there may direct link on how ARA handled the DP account / TBL production process. Could also be something else... If this MD was responsible for the current TBL mess, things may move into a positive direction now...

You beat me to it
The above is correct. The manager called Rene was fired on the spot and this was yesterday publically announced in the canteen in front of all the employees by 2 commissioners from ARA holding
Firing on the spot is very unusual in NL and only done in cases like theft, sexual misabuse or gross mismanagement. I suspect the latter is the case.
This opens possibilities for sure and deserves a White Russian to celebrate this. Let's all take a stand now in wait what kind of news this brings next week or the week after

#261 3 years ago

another part of the puzzle.

Employees of ARA didn't get a bonus over 2016. Apparently first time ever.

This due to bad financial results.

The MD was just trying to do a cash-grab with DP with his price increase. He got now the door slammed in his face

Fired in the spot like you clean out your desk now and leave the premises escorted

#269 3 years ago
Quoted from PinBalt:

Rensh, are you saying that the guy (MD) at ARA that DP was having issues with has just been fired? That is what I assume but wanted to get clarification.


Let crazylevi just be crazylevi. This is good news, period.

Are we there ? For sure not but a big hurdle is out of the way

#273 3 years ago

I think I should correct Steigerpijp a little

I know team members like him and JP and Jules are having a day job and did this for the love of pinball and will very likely be rewarded when this is all over. So no salary, more like a bonus at the end.

For Jaap, Barry and for sure programmer koen this is more or less their day job and need to take out a salary to pay for food-rent-etc. And they don't have a villa so no worries

I think at least P3 has a similar construction listening to a podcast from special K. This helps startup to get from the ground

#278 3 years ago

Never thought I would see the day: a post from Rarehero without f*ck in it

Great man, welcome back

And keep now your dudeness when the next bump in the road occurs

Cheers man. Take a White Russian from me

#311 3 years ago
Quoted from Cobray:

Maybe they found out this guy was negotiating with DP so they fired him?

This is defenitely not the case.

Like rarehero says, now it's time to go bowling for like 1-2 weeks and see how things develop. After months of silence between DP and ARA talks have started again which is hopeful. Let's keep our fingers crossed !! Crucial 1-2 weeks coming up after all for us dudes.

#313 3 years ago
Quoted from highdef:

Meanwhile inside the ARA factory, #56 is alive and well....

#318 3 years ago
Quoted from highdef:

The pic was from November 2014, so it's the early prototype. I noticed it too and was shocked ARA would let little kids jam out on TBL.

He, this is Holland. We are used to smoking pot and leafs

I leave the gun-part to you US-guys

#325 3 years ago
Quoted from wcbrandes:

Continuing on Tom. If the boxs filled with machines are paid for or can be paid for by DP, everyone should receive those machines.I won't ever try and prevent others getting their machines however for all those in the 100 to 300 range the likelihood of ever getting their money or machine anytime soon is very very very low and no BOP3 is going to change this. Lets all hope they have a complete plan soon in the mean time you never stop.

I disagree. DP will never settle for a plan just for the hostage pins. It will be for sure an all or nothing plan.

#371 3 years ago

I feel a NSN soon coming

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#420 3 years ago
Quoted from Pinhead1982:

Jaap says waiting on ARA but expecting a meeting this week,
There is only 2 days left!

As I already mentioned last week in other thread this is a very short week in NL as tomorrow everything is closed here due to celebrating Kings birthday and Friday a lot of companies are still closed.

Was already a little bit afraid this was gonna happen as many people take the whole week of this week (schools have holiday to) and it only takes 1 person being away if that's the one calling the shots

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#479 3 years ago

I have no clue what Rarehero is talking about and neither do my little birdies. So very interested to hear this news. Personally I don't expect any kind of news soon, good or bad.

So temper the excitement guys please.

3 months later
#526 2 years ago

Sorry to say that we don't have month long summer holidays . Standard is around 25-30 holiday days a year. Most people take max 3 weeks in the summer.

Didn't Jaap say that it was a two week closure ?

#539 2 years ago
Quoted from Ericpinballfan:

Hummm, dont think that will happen.

According to last NSN plane tickets to Chicago have been booked and the seminar is on the schedule so where your remark is based upon ??

#552 2 years ago
Quoted from Ericpinballfan:

Thats good news!
I know 3 that might fly in to have a little talk with them and discuss refunds. If there even thinking of a new table or company. Well, i'd love to film the conversation mentioned above.
This could get real good and ugly fast.
(Above sounded harsh, No violence or yelling would be tolerated.)

So in 2014 DP brought nice ladies, in 2017 DP will bring body guards ?

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#567 2 years ago
Quoted from TKDalumni:

Did they talk at Expo?

Yep. See the other TBL thread

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