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Class Action Lawsuit for TBL? The Big Lebowski / Dutch Pinball

By Davidus56

3 years ago

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Post #70 Link to Dutch Authority for Consumers and Markets Posted by Damon (3 years ago)

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#100 3 years ago

Isn't there anyone pinball related in the vicinity of ARA and DP?

It's impossible to resolve this issue over here.

Gotta be somebody local willing to devote a little time and try and sit down with ARA and/or their counsel.

Set up a skype or go to meeting call with interested parties

Waiting for something to happen isn't a good strategy. See Jpop fiasco

#131 3 years ago

WTF with that letter!

Ponzi scheme in writing. Good lord

They are crushing themselves

The only hope is to work out some deal with Andrew

To do that you need to get those lying broke dicks Barry and Jaap out of there

#168 3 years ago

Bottom line is Barry and Jaap F ed up. Lied, misrepresented, etc....

How is the code not done after 4 years of doing what?

If i learned anything with Jpop, its time to roll in there like a bull in a china closet and quit worrying about hurting somebodies feelings before its too late if its not already.

Why not try and get Heighway to make the damn things versus some "contract manufacturer" that doesn't know shit about pinball?

#170 3 years ago
Quoted from rlslick:

Can someone explain to me why we should trust everything that ARA has said so far in the matter? So someone called about the boards and they said there was never an issue with the boards...it was because DP never paid ARA. DP said that they were suppose to pay for parts for Pinbot so that they could build and possibly announce the game for sale while building TBL pins at the same time.

If you are reading between the lines, ARA is a legitimate going concern business that finally had enough of DP's BS and non payment.

Why on earth would ARA foot the bill for continuing the Ponzi scheme? They clearly got what was going on and simply kept the pins for collateral.

DP will never pay them and those TBL's will get auctioned off to pay debts.

The TPF Bop scheme is a last ditch effort to keep the Ponzi going.

How much have Jaap and Barry made in salary over the past 4 years?

How do you survive producing 50 pins in 4 years on that profit margin? JBOP 2.0

#174 3 years ago
Quoted from TVP:

What I don't get is why back a year or so ago, during the big TBL meltdown, when people were able to get their deposits back, I saw people here wanting to throw money back at Dutch pinball when things were imploding. Why anyone would have continued supporting that project is beyond me.

We believe what we want to believe. I F ed up with Jpop because i believed in him and let that slimy bastard go on for way too long.

I actually sent in an AIW deposit just to support the prick amidst bright red flashing warning signs. I lost $4500 total and then watched MG F ing play out like it did.

Despite the Jpop blinders i was so thankful just to get my $$ back after 2015 Expo and Phil gate.

We all want to believe the best intentions of these M fer's. Not anymore. Trust but verify

#175 3 years ago
Quoted from rlslick:

all we have is to speculate and guess who's at fault by reading in between the lines.

I understand that, and based on my long history and experience of dealing with people on the business legal front you can color me jaded

DP has zero chance hiring any lawyers to pursue anything against ARA, they F ed up with Universal initially and now ARA. It costs a SHIT TON of $$$ to go after the collateral and IF they thought they were in the right they would have already had it rectified!!

Think about what they thought they could get away with regarding the licensing. How F ing stupid was that? It took Roger Sharpe to fix it.

Whether you hate Phil or not he tried to shine the light on these guys.

#226 3 years ago

How much is ARA claiming they are owed? I know they wanted more $$ to build the pins but they are sitting on $400-450k worth of collateral.

If they auction off the pins to satisfy the debt then what's left? I can't imagine they are going to sit on those pins forever

#292 3 years ago

Train wrecks always have one big thing in common.

No F ing $$ left.

Hard to believe broke dick liars just "living the dream" on other people's money

Hope it works out somehow

#298 3 years ago

This is gonna be the biggest wrestling match for those 50 pins held hostage ever

What a cluster F

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#397 3 years ago


#399 3 years ago
Quoted from eggbert52:

Case in point...

It needs repeating Egghead

#403 3 years ago
Quoted from SunKing:

Hey Ice, you drinking tonight too? I swear, Robin is going to put a breathalyzer on Pinside one day.

Well ain't it the truth? How's that Alien pin? I'm hoping Andrew keeps delivering but he needs to get the LE done and start ramping up like he said he was going to do, month after month.

I realize that Kevin Kulek is over there putting games together on the line but that doesn't give me a ton of confidence!!!

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#508 2 years ago

These shit bags are done. Good riddance.

Heighway is right behind them.

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#528 2 years ago
Quoted from Tuna_Delight:

It's national vacation time in the Netherlands.

It's a permanent holiday for those guys

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#561 2 years ago
Quoted from Tuna_Delight:

We will introduce our new Contract Manufacturer to you at Expo in Chicago (from Wednesday, October 11 until Sunday, October 15) where we will do a presentation on Friday at 6PM.


What a F ing joke that is.

How about stay where you are at and build the F ing games.

A pair of dopes from day one. I really hope i can get to Expo this year.

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