I don't think your crazy at all. I just don't understand why people seek out top-of-the-line(or any shape pin), acquire them for a few weeks, and then want to get rid of them. Seems kinda too sudden for me

Do you even own a pin?

Simple, sometimes you play it on location and decide you need one. Finally bring her home to discover that you'd really have something else. Happened to me several times.

CF, careful now. He owned/owns a RBION and is quite the expert on determining how we should describe the condition of our pins, don't believe me just ask him.

it's a curse. happens to me also, only I am too poor to own more than one pin and space constrained. As soon as one hits the room I yearn about some other I've seen. Fortunately, A pins are way out of my price range, so I long for fun B and C titles. From A list I only long for TZ.

Almost all of us suffer from what I call SMS. Significant other, money or space. Those seem to be the 3 factors which affect us most. The ver first pin I owned went in the dining room. Had no space for it anywhere else and I mean really, a lot of us don't use the dining room table anymore so it was prime time for game time real estate. 2 months later I had 4 in there. GF almost had a cow.

Or he may have gotten a great deal on it and just couldn't pass it up, even though it wasn't what he really wanted but he still knew that down the road it would make for good trade bait if he bought it right. People do this all the time, not surprised at all.

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One crept out into my family room.. Wife was cool untill I started talking about another. I don't talk about new pinball machines anymore

Sounds like you should be able to get a trade for that. I think an OK MB is = to a perfect CV.

Good luck with the trade. That's the deal with this hobby.. games you "like" are always up for trade against games you really "want".

Ouch, that really cut me to the core. Now you ruined my day
I was just responding to the OP question, not by any means trying to attack, just an observation.
He asked what people thought in his opening thread.
Hey centerflank, you forgot to thumbs down my first post. C'mon, don't hold back. You know you want to. Hahah

I don't think you are crazy at all. I think you and your family would like MB even better than CV. IMO.

I think the issue you will run into is finding someone with a CQ MB like you're describing, willing to trade for a HUO CQ CV.

Do I think it's possible? Sure. I do think it will take a decent size of cash and patience on your end.

Not crazy. They're both excellent pins. You'll be looking at a downgrade in condition unless you inject cash into the deal. I don't know if I'd say monster bash is better, but I think the theme resonates with people more so it's more popular. I have a mint CV. I'll not play it for a month or so and the next time I play I'm blown away by how great it is. For me, variety is more important than the individual pin.

Good luck with the trade!

This. They're both great titles but you'll never get a MB as you described in a straight up trade for a CV.

Sell the CV and hunt for a MB. Or find a pair of lesser titles and double up!

Good luck.

This is an ever week or 2 thing for me get a pin play it for a couple weeks then move on to something eles . Attack from mars lasted the longest of anything about 5 1/2 - 6 months
Your right it is crazy but always want something new keeps things fresh that way plus I don't get Attached to any game so it's easier to part with !!!
Never owned a cv but had a monster bash and could not get it out of the house fast enough think 2 weeks lol

Why would you sell a game that you love and is your family's favorite pin that you've only owned a couple months? And you've only put 63 plays on it? You at least need to play it a lot and get to the point where you can join the Cirqus on a regular basis and see the true beauty of the rule-set. Have you even played Neon Multiball and some of the other rare modes?

I only sell games when I get tired of playing them. I wouldn't do it, especially since there's a great chance MB and AFM are the next PPS re-makes which would bring values down if you ever decide to sell it. CV's a rarer game with better rules and a unique layout. MB has an awesome theme and humor but the layout and rule-set is similar to many other games. I'd put another 500 plays on the CV and then make a decision.

Been playing since 77,been collecting since 03.there is not a single game in my collection that was purchased as a "try out".If Im buying Im keeping.My only issue is how far to take the restoration.

Im shocked when I hear stuff like"Ive never played an AFM" or "their are no TZs around for me to check out."

I'm going to be the minority here but I would not do the trade.

You and, better yet, your family enjoy CV. That should mean CV is a keeper for now. More importantly, I feel that finding a near min CV is much harder to do than finding a MB so if you make the trade and decide you liked CV better and wanted one back it may be harder to find another near mint version of that game.

Plus, I know most wont like this comment, but I would think long and hard about buying a MB or even a AFM right now at current pricing. I would wait a year or so and let the dust settle a bit on remakes to see if more even happen. If they do, I think there's a good chance that MB could be one of those titles thus potentially making it that much easier to find a nice version of the game. Just to many con's for this trade to consider it.

I think this is where you will run into trouble. I had a $10K bounty on a CQ MB for over a year. Not one of the sellers that contacted me were willing to do a trade that I recall. The subject did come up. Also, each one had "issues" that would prob drop it out of your condition requirements. I will say though you absolutely have some great trade bait. Finding the right person just may take a bit.

Just wait for MBr and get a perfect NIB one.

Man if we had a crystal ball, I was going to offer the same advice. I just see Universal being a BIT*H about the license.

Agreed - if you're enjoying CV, why look for a trade right now? If an MBr is announced as the next PPS remake prices will come down and you'll be able to do a more even trade for a really nice MB (or sell the CV and buy an MBr if you like). And even if PPS remakes AFM or something else next, it's still hard to imagine MB prices skyrocketing since it'll still obviously be on the short list for a future remake. In other words, there's little downside to waiting if you're still loving the CV, and could be a significant upside if a remake announcement drives down MB prices.

Maybe, but Farsight was able to get the license with seemingly no problem for the Pinball Arcade (didn't even need a kickstarter) so licensing may not be as big of a deal as people think. As has been repeated without end in the various "what's next, PPS?" threads, licensors exist to make money, and to do that they have to issue licenses.

I don't think you're crazy for considering it, but I'd certainly hang onto the CV.

What are CQ quality MB's going for these days? A bit north of $10k I would imagine...

The license is a non-issue. PPS already has licenses for translites and cabinet art for MB as well as other parts that they sell on their site. I think it's pretty much a given at this point that if PPS remakes machines after MMR that MB will be one of the first.

Licenses are ALWAYS an issue. Have you ever dealt with trying to acquire one? Specifically one issued previously? Cuz I have. It's not as trivial as you make it out to be.

Sure they have licensed pieces, that doesn't mean they can build a machine, does it help, sure. That coupled with the point above about Farsight show that Universal is listening, but rights are not all encompassing, they apply to very specific products. Just cuz you have the rights to the decals and plastics doesn't then mean you can build a machine. Not how it works.