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Christian Marche signature inside my Gulfstream, now it makes sense

By Mikala

5 years ago


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#1 5 years ago

While doing a full restoration of my Gulfstream a few years back, I noticed a strange signature inside the backbox behind the score reels after I removed them. My first thought was, why would anyone sign this spot behind the score reels. After looking at it closely, I noticed that it looked like Christian Marche’s signature. I ask myself and at the time, why would he sign here and did he not live in France?

Fast forward to tonight. I was looking at IPDB and came across this excerpt of information under Jubilee.

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Claude Verpy, a collector in France, relates this story from his friend, Christian Tabart, indicating that Jubilee was originally designed with four pop bumpers:

The French firm Bussoz, an operator and importer of games, sent Christian to the Williams factory in Chicago in December 1972, accompanied by an interpreter. Christian met Norm Clark and Steve Kordek and gave them his opinion on what they were doing, and the exchange was apparently very interesting. Steve Kordek was in the final stages of getting Jubilee ready for production. He had planned four pop bumpers on the playfield, the two bottom ones on either side of the captive balls, like on Whoopee. Christian told him that it would make the game less interesting for the players as those two pop bumpers would prevent the ball from being sent back to the top of the playfield and would help lose the ball quickly. The result is that the pop bumpers were replaced by two rollover buttons which add to the bonus..and a game which was certainly more interesting to play.

So now it makes sense. Gulfstream came out in May 1973, Christian would have been walking the floor of the factory while Gulfstream was under production. I am assuming, he pulled out a pen for some reason and signed the backbox. Yes, I know you all want to see a picture, give me a couple days and I will post. Understand I have to remove the backbox and then remove 4 score reels to see this again, but I will post for your opinions.

#2 5 years ago

A photo would be kind of cool to see.

#3 5 years ago

I would like to see a photo also.
Marche, did live in the USA for a long while,
(though that may have been in mid-late 70s)
as he shared a art studio with Gordon Morison
from some of the stories that i have been told.

#4 5 years ago

See below for a letter that i have a copy of
in which C.Marche was writing Rob Berk
with a list of games that Marche recalled he did the artwork on.
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Might want compare the signatures

#5 5 years ago

I like this story, of Marche advising Kodek & Clark on layout. It shows someone who cares about pinball as a player as well as a livelyhood.
Is there much info out there on Marche and his work out there?, it would make a great coffee table book.

#6 5 years ago

Ok, here we go. It has been awhile since I have looked in the backbox of my Gulfstream. I originally said score reels, it was located behind the stepper unit. No, it does not match the photo above, but we are looking at two signature’s almost 20 years apart. What I see is two names, the one on top appears to begin with a big “C”, and I thought the second one began with a big “M”. Opinions?

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#7 5 years ago

Possible

#8 5 years ago

Looks like a scribble rather than a signature.

#9 5 years ago

It's in French.

#10 5 years ago

Looks real to me, a lot of things match.

#11 5 years ago

I'd have to see another known signature of his that looked anything like this. I see his signature on paintings and serigraphs but they don't look anywhere close. might have just been someone testing a pen?

#12 5 years ago
Quoted from phil-lee:

Looks real to me, a lot of things match.

I believe these match up, kind of.
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#14 5 years ago

There is a big C and a big M, and the underline.

#15 5 years ago

Wonder if the differences in the signature are because of having to reach into the box in a weird angle and using a wood surface?

#16 5 years ago
Quoted from ArcadeDanger:

Wonder if the differences in the signature are because of having to reach into the box in a weird angle and using a wood surface?

With that bolt or screw hole in the middle of part of the signature sweep,
looks to me that the signature(scribble) might have been scrawled/written
on the plywood prior to assembly of the lightbox in the backbox.

#17 5 years ago

The horizontal lines are key to me, with pressure applied at beginning and end with a lighter middle. There is a certain "Spirit" or style that looks the same, with similar flourish and no, I am not a Pro.
Ascertaining a value if genuine, other than pride of ownership, would be difficult. Certain signatures applied by various people during assembly of early Fender guitars means A LOT.

2 weeks later
#18 5 years ago

For what it's worth, here's how he signed non-pinball artwork he did back in the 70s.

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