Now that the weather is nice, open to moving a machine or two (need the room). Games I am open to parting with are . . .

Jack*bot -- very good condition

Doctor Who -- plays fine, clearly spent a lot of time on route, needs some love and I've never given it any HAS BEEN SOLD

1978 Bally Playboy -- HUO, in absolutely fabulous condition, in process of shopping it out. Picked it up from the original owner a few weeks ago, he had it sitting in a spare bedroom with the head off, for the last 15 years. My mafia brethren think I should put in on eBay to get top dollar, but, I'll listen to offers.

Jack*bot available. Very good condition, $2100

At least you know where to look when your funds improve. You never know, I could still have it. I enjoy the game, nice when you are not looking for a marathon game or when you don't want to have think too much. My issues is I am out of space and working on a new custom game that I will soon be needing a cabinet for (if anyone has a WPC cabinet they don't need let me know), and will need a place to put it. If it does not sell by then, well, maybe I will just store it some place.

maybe I'll take you up on that

You've got a huge piece of property, you need to put up a building like Mike Schudel has, and I don't want to hear about any 'zoning crap' -- oh, and while you are at it, how about a nice back-up generator, enough to power at least a half dozen games -- what time did the power come back on?

wooly (wrath of olympus) was a virtual game that has been made into a real machine. It was at expo last year, which I'm pretty sure was it first public appearance, and it looked pretty nice. The latest prototype will be there this year and has been advanced nicely since a year ago.

50/50-- chance of me having in there, how well it plays that is another question.

I still have one of these, almost 10 years old, lamp is about to go (I've noticed the picture has dimmed quite a bit of late), and the lamps still go for over $150 at ABT (you can get cheaper knockoffs, but they won't last more then a few months). I'll probably replace the lamp one more time before replacing the TV (and not thinking I'll be able to get anything for it). Even though this TV still looks good, it does not look nearly as a good as the plasma I got a couple of years ago.

I had the yellow blob, was not aware of the issue and kept saying, it does not look right there seems like discoloration, then when I put up a solid colored non-black screen it was clear as day. I called ABT, while googling, and I'm reading all this stuff about the issue and the class action lawsuit, so I am ready to pounce, when the representative says 'yes we are aware of it and can schedule a visit'. So the tech comes out, tells me he is has done like 50 of these swaps out of the optical block. He takes the entire TV apart, looked like a playfield swap will dozens of parts laying on the floor. So he finally gets to the optical block and says 'they gave me the wrong part, you need rev xyz, and that this will fit, but the focus won't be right', so, he put it all back together and came back two days later with the correct part. TV has been great since, but have heard the blob could eventually come back. This will be my third replacement of the bulb.

I'd offer up my jack*bot for trade, but you have a pinbot, and they are pretty much the same game, given that the playfield is identical. Jackbot really pinbot 2.0

not really a trade/sale but figure this would be the group interested. Had a nice bonus at lunch. Walked into tapworks, in west loop/greektown and found they added a couple of arcade games, most notably an IJ on Free play. Played a couple of games, in decent enough shape, guess I may be eating there a little more often.

when I was a kid, my friend had a fireball in his basement, brand new (his dad sold pins retail). Played a lot of games on that machine, was way cooler than most games at the time (not a ton of games had multiball at that point). I would someday like one, but the prices are typically too high and you really don't even see them come up for sale very often. I would only consider the EM version.

I'm impressed you were able to take exactly what I was about to say and and post it.

Hopefully he was just trying to be funny, otherwise my response would be "if the machine gets it, then so do you!"

We should all write our congressman to get a law passed making it illegal do destroy a pinball machine, they are after all an endangered species.

maybe he was planning to trade a machine for the tickets.

Totally unacceptable for them to say it is "yours" and then sell it to someone else for more. If they say 'best offer' and that they are waiting to see other offers, etc. that is something different. But at the same time, you then trying to do beat that offer is, well . . . I'll give you the benefit of the doubt and assume you did that since he had already done it to you and not as a standard practice to try to offer more to "steal" a machine from another buyer.

When I have sold, if someone says "I'll take it", it is their's assuming they show up at the appointed time, even if I get calls offering more. I'll tell the guy offering more, if the sale falls through it's yours. As the bumper sticker on my car says "keep your word".

I had him do a ramp for me, I think it was around $40

I don't find it boring, but I do find it exhausting at times. The playfield layout is certainly 'different', and the first time I played it, I just did not get why it was so popular, until I read up on the rules. It certainly does have deep rules and really requires both skill and strategy to do well on it, but if you have those, well, it can be a very, very long game. As a result, I just don't play it very often, and at some point I can see letting it go. LOTR has some of those same features, well, a lot less strategy required, but is less exhausting, given the layout having more flow.

WoZ I have never enjoyed, the sound package drives me crazy, and it seems if you don't know the rules which I don't, that you can play and play and nothing really seems to happen. I'm sure I would enjoy it more if I knew the rules, but that screeching witch just makes me not want to play it. Of course we all have our different likes and dislikes.

Talk about an understatement, it was showing Predator was going to be at expo this past year until a couple of weeks before.

This is certainly interesting, and be interesting to know more of the background driving this. I know Mike has pissed a lot of vendors off and he needs to change that quickly or expo is going to crash and burn. Fortunately Andrew has fixed a lot of the issues with the free play room, Mike needs to turn the vendor hall over to someone similar who can work more effectively with the vendors. IMO

Probably not in year 1, but could in the long term, not like local guys want to be constantly taking their machines to be pounded on in public. The shows are pretty close together.

guess you missed the first sentence in his post . . .

I find when someone posts a dozen photos in this thread for it to be quite annoying. One or two photos to tease a machine is fine. Only a couple of people reading the thread really need to see a dozen photos, so having that in a marketplace ad makes sense to me.

I believe its as John Lydgate who said "You can please some of the people all of the time and all of the people some of the time, but you can't please all of the people all of the time."

We all have things we like and don't like about pinside, and Robin and the moderators continue to trying to find a balance that works for the majority of 'members'. You can make donations if you want, but you don't have to (and hearts do acknowledge those who have contributed, regardless of amount). You can sell your machines here and pay a small fee, or you can sell your machines elsewhere if you don't want to. if you want to be 'out of control' you can take it to the basement (although I don't like that many catetories/topics have to start there, where few will see it, since to my knowledge you can't have basement threads just show up with the rest of them (but maybe you can?)).

I am pretty comfortable in saying that there are going to be few changes or enhancements that will be universally loved. I get that no one likes to be nickel and dimed, but to be honest 99% of the users here can be here and do what they want without it costing them a dime. it seems to be that Robin is trying to find a way to support the site and himself and balance that with the desires and needs of others, not easy by any stretch of the imagination.

Personally, I would rather not see advertising. I contribute a little bit each year in hopes it keeps it that way. I think moderators do a pretty solid job of keeping threads from getting too far off track (lets remember, they are people and therefore flawed like the rest of us, so they are not always going to be perfect at it), because if ever thread did, the site would quickly become unusable. I'd like to see for certain threads that the OP can do some moderating as well, but I recognize that opens a can of worms (so maybe it is just marketplace threads, given the other dynamics around them).

Bottom line, use what you want, ignore what you don't like. If you don't find the benefits outweigh the negatives, then hopefully you find a place that better meets your needs. But again, few here will ever be happy with every aspect of the site.

Now everyone, go take a break and go press some flipper buttons.

Production starting very soon, waiting for all of the parts to get here. Parts showing up every day, but pretty much need them all before we can start. New assembly line is ready and waiting.

I expect we will have three at expo. Unfortunately the first batch of playfields we got had some printing issues, and we won't have the next batch in time for expo, so we will have to use the flawed ones.

Not sure how many bad playfields we have, and how many we will end up using, but for machines they do get installed in, my guess is that those machines will eventually be sold as 'production samples' with the subpar playfields.

there were certainly more than a few drops . . .drops in vendors, drops in attendance, drops of machines

I'll be hosting a Houdini play testing event here at the American Pinball offices in Streamwood this Saturday from 11:00 AM until 7:00 PM (or maybe later if folks still want to play). If you are interested please send me a PM with an approximate time you want to stop by, just want to be sure we don't have too many folks here at one time. I'm not that concerned about it, since we should have three games set up for play, but opening it up here on pinside, one never knows.

Possibility that I'll do one on a week night later in the month

You're welcome, thanks for coming.

Unless they were saying things like "oh, this is my holy grail pin, I really want this, but I can only pay X, will you take that", and then flip it. Some would argue that it is good negotiating, but pinball is a community and at some point I draw a line between, getting a good deal, and being a douche. I don't buy and sell often, but can look at every deal I've made and believe that both sides were happy and that the game spent time in their home for a good period of time before they moved it.

What are you talking about, everyone here is totally glued to the Houdini thread, they all wait with bated breath for each and every update I post. They spend all day hitting 'refresh' just in hopes of some new tidbit from me.

_{(Rosh wonders if he really needs to include a sarcasm emoji)}

Can't speak for others, but at least on Houdini I have had two 'engineer' games, the first was one of the two prototypes we unveiled at TPF (had no physical game prior to TPF), which had art, since we never had a whitewood, but then when we made changes (e.g. added a switch, tweaked flat rails, changed the trough, change some of the boards, etc.), so I got a new 'dev' version that was closer to what would be called a 'production sample'. It still gets changed as we try out different ideas/fixes, some make it to production, some don't, etc. So for example, it has a non-production wiring for the shaker, it has a knocker, but if we offer a knocker kit it would be implemented differently. Other differences are things like wiring being the correct color scheme, the stage mech is still a prototype version, it has a cliffy protector we are testing for it (so cliffy can sell them not us). At this point the original prototypes are museum pieces or boat anchors, since they can no longer be updated with code, since it does not have the same configuration and I can't not even sure it will play, since as soon as they had the new one ready for me, the old one left my office exactly as it was, and for all I know it was not even booting cleanly at the time, since no clue what I was working on.

Scott's TNA whitewood still works since they did not make any changes that would totally break the original. It does have a different machine config since the wiring is different, but otherwise it can run current code.

there is just a single file (ta.yaml) that maps electronics to wiring that is different. I do not believe any other changes needed as he develops new code.

No penetration through the line, and from inside the 45, that tip is on the kicker, no reason he should not have had the ball going a higher trajectory.

I get it, good players can make the shots on Houdini, just like good kickers can make kicks through the goal posts.

So, since it sounds like you are not a good pinball player, how are you as a kicker? Bears will probably be looking for a new one.

Based on your first sentence, you obviously don't know what you are talking about. You also obviously have spent no time in the Houdini thread, since if you had, you would know that your comment about us not listening to feedback is completely wrong. You obviously have no clue about my posting on pinside and what I do on this forum, as we are probably the most responsive manufacturer on this forum in responding to questions and issues raised.

Second, is was obviously a joke and not a troll (as you can see in the 9 to 1 ratio of thumbs up to down). If ssbodyman took offense, then I'll apologize to him, but if someone throws shade our way, I would think they would be find with me poking some fun back. So ssbodyman let me know if I offended you.

There are plenty of games that I think are dogs, that others like. Not every game is for everyone. That are hundreds of happy Houdini owners who love their machine. Every machine ever made has people who have bought it and love it and people who have bought it and decided it was not right for them.

Out of state can certainly be a way to get machines. Until I thought about it, did not realize how many I have gotten that way.

I've purchased three games (BK2K which was my first machine, LOTR, Dr Who) where it was a couple of hours drive each way (each from a different state). I got four games from a guy in North Dakota, an EBD-LE, Centaur, Derby Day and Grand Prix (with a second populated playfield) and he DELIVERED them to me when he came down for expo (two different years). The EBD-LE, Centaur and Derby day were in a trade for my Junkyard -- he had tons of older games he would pick up from operators, but newer games were harder for him to come by.

I've sold two to out of state people both EMs. One was a Solids and Stripes with a trashed backglass and playfield, but nice cabinet, not a game I would expect someone to travel for, but the guy drove up from Ohio, sounded like he had a good playfield and backglass. I also sold the Derby Day, and they paid as much to have it shipped then I charged them for the game (regret selling that one).

As of most of you know, always good let people you know/meet that you collect. I picked up a HUO Bally Playboy, cheap, when a guy heard me mention I collect machines at a community event. And before anyone asks, I've promised RazerX first crack at it if I decide to sell.

It is Scott Danesi's fault, that bastard TNA opened peoples eyes to the fun of a single layer machine with a less complex rule set.

Certainly not $75, but you could pick it up so you could save on shipping . . .

https://store.american-pinball.com/collections/frontpage/products/magic-glass

I think we have them in stock. Probably want to email [email protected] if interested since the website likely only does items being shipped.

For those in the Chicago area who want to get some time on Oktoberfest, you can stop by our offices next week, Monday through Wednesday from 5pm to 8pm to help us with testing the machine.

You can find our address on our website: www.american-pinball.com

If I agree to sell at a price, I sell it at that price. If after I hang up the phone someone else offers more, I honor my original agreement.

When I bought my Bally Playboy, which was HUO, the guy wanted $400 I gave him twice that, since its was worth far more then even that. The guy was quite surprised but to me it was the right thing to do.

Maybe I am old fashioned in doing things this way, I guess it was how I was raised. Be true to your word. Treat others as you would like to be treated.

Got a call about someone looking to sell a 1965 Gottlieb Thoro Bred. Took a quick look at it, Playfield and backglass are in very good condition. Machine does not currently power up (and they could not find the key so I have not yet looked inside). If anyone has real interest let me know, game is Buffalo Grove.

I’m sure Mikes first choice when he picks up a “project game” is to try for a quick sale vs having it sit in his place as a project, if it does not sell that way, then eventually he may fix it up and price it accordingly.

Slightly OT, for those looking for a chance to play Hot Wheels, this weekend there will be one at the Toy And Hot Wheels Meetup, which will be outdoors at a flea market, in South Beloit. Our sales manager Michael Grant will be there with one of our machines and I believe Joe Balcer will be there for part of the day as well.

https://www.facebook.com/events/291410375397786/

For anyone who knows you it was pretty obvious it was a joke, that or you recently had a major head injury that I was unaware of.