Looking for a DMD in the $2K range. Let me know what you got.
Quoted from dirtbag66:
Just so I'm clear:
Retailer charging exorbitant prices to cover overhead - Good
Private seller charging exorbitant prices to cover basic needs (food, rent, clothing, etc.) or to put towards another machine - Bad
Sound about right?
I think it really depends on the situation. Pretty sure that if you're a private seller in the pinball hobby and you need to cover the basic needs, as you put it, then you need to straighten out your priorities. I'm also sure that a private seller typically doesn't offer a written warranty against operation or defects or whatever else GAP (or other distributors) provide. Buying and selling in the pinball world is no different than buying a car. (yes, a car analogy). You could buy from a dealership, and expect to pay a higher price, but to also have the perks associated with buying from a dealership. Or you can buy from a private seller, and have to deal with the mysteries of buying from said seller.
Bottom line, if you don't support what GAP (or any other distributor/reseller does) then you can speak your opinion by not buying from them. Plain and simple.
Routed =/= shit
Condition is king. I'd take a table with 30K plays on it in excellent condition over a "HUO" table that has never had the glass taken off any day of the week. I'd take a $3500 routed MET Pro. Unless the PF is worn down to wood, most things can be cleaned or replaced. Send em my way.
Quoted from CaptainNeo:
so if the playfield has wear at the scoops, with some fade on the cabinet and somones name carved in the side. You think that, that's only worth $800 savings?
I never got a chance to see the game, so i dont know what it's like. Like i said, condition is king. It's what determines the price, not whether it's HUO or not. Still, at 3500, it worth at the very least, a look.
Quoted from dirtbag66:
Exactly. The build quality on those games feels like they were built in a garage.
Hmmm...so going from garbage game play, then being corrected, to "poor build quality" yet Spooky is reputed to have some of the best customer service and build quality in the industry.
Seems like you're reaching for straws here. No need to though, man. There's no "JJP team" or "Spooky Team" or anything like that. It's ok to just back away...
Quoted from CaptainNeo:
I was responding to someone that was ripping on spooky, and using JJP as leverage for his argument. I was just stating, that JJP are not the games you want to be using for leverage when claiming another manufacturer sucks.
Let's not even throw Stern into the mix
I agree. After a sale, and cash was exchanged, the item now belongs to the buyer. They can do whatever they want with it, they can burn it for all I care. Bottom line is that I no longer own it, so I have no say in what they do with it.
Quoted from Trekie:
You already know the game is not working. So put your parts list together:
3 flippers kits
3 pop bumpers
7 standup targets
hard to find talking head parts (Rudy)
New Play Field
New plastic set
and what ever is missing.
Add it up plus tax and shipping.
Depending on your experience, any where from 45 hours to 160 hours of labor.
Better off IMO to seek out a good used game for $4500 to $5000. If you want to learn how to build a pinball machine this is for you.
Flame suit on.
I have no ill will against Mike. I just think his starting point is joke.
Sometimes, it's the journey that's the enjoyable part, not the destination.
I'm sure the buyer for this type of machine is out there. There are absolutely people that find the restoration of a machine the enjoyable part.
I'm not for or against this listing, but at the end of the day, it's Mike's machine and he can list it for what he wants. There's a TSPP that is being listed for 8500 that people are loving. I can't see the value in it, but I'm sure there is someone willing to pay 8500 for a fully modded TSPP.
Any interest in Gorgar that I'd like to trade or sell? Cab and PF are in great shape (little wear on the pf) the boards are all clean, the backglass has flaking and is probably the worst part in the machine. Has Comet 2SMD LEDs (warm white) in the GI, and the lesser bright 2 LED in the inserts and backglass. Asking for $1K +/- cash on a pin in the same era of similar value.
I don't check for a 10 hrs and they are "sale pending" already! I might have taken that BSD out of IL
Does anyone know what the differences (if any) are between the engineer's game vs a production game?
Quoted from toyotaboy:
I'm assuming pinball is the same as any industry.
Engineering sample usually means engineering built everything themselves on a bench, usually with early prototype parts (maybe a mix of production and prototype parts). This is where they find all of the fit issues (so there may be extra holes because something had to move slightly).
After engineering samples, it goes to pilot build (which means a production engineer builds it while engineers observe. Production engineer takes notes of what was difficult to assemble, and either suggests changes to the parts, changes to fixtures, or decides to change the order of the assembly).
Would it be safe to say if there was a prototype part that was used that needs replacing, that it could be replaced with a production part?
Quoted from Chitownpinball:
Negative. Not looking to blast this person out, as he is a nice guy. Its just an unfortunate situation. I PM’d inhome to see what he thinks.
At this point, it almost sounds like he's stealing your game? Nice would not be the word I would be using to describe him. Good luck with it all.
Will be listing up an imamaculate Baywatch. Comes with legs and pinballs. Unfortunately more than 600 plays in the last 12 years
Seriously though. It is very nice, has a REAL ColorDMD, EnerGI Maestro light board (custom light dimming, no relay clicks with the flashers), had a full topside teardown in November 2017, Titan rubbers, all mechs cleaned and resleeved, no wear on the pf, Comet 2SMD LEDs throughout in Natural White and I'm sure some other things that I'll think for the listing.
Quoted from gweempose:
There are so many assholes like that around here that I don't even bother checking craigslist anymore. I know people in other cities that get good deals all the time on craigslist, but that's virtually impossible in our area because of all the loser flipper dickheads.
The only way to discourage that is to keep scrolling past. Unfortunately, there are buyers that dont know or dont care and buy from people like this.
Quoted from NoQuarters:
I was thinking the same thing. A new game at 1K more seems more attractive.
But those new games aren't Iron Man, or LOTR, or (insert X game). You could extend this logic to 6-8K TZ, IJ, CV, ToM, etc. Why spend so much on a 25 yr old game when that's Stern Prem/Le money? upwards towards JJP money?
I get this notion, but I don't...
I was in a similar situation. Was looking at a SM, but then thought "well, I could get a NIB Stern Pro for not much more." But then, none of them were SM...in the end, I ended up going a different route altogether, but it's not like you're upgrading from a Pro to a Prem/LE, where you could put in another 1-1.5K and get the Prem/LE stuff. You're spending your money on a different experience altogether. New isn't always better. Anyways, obviously your money and how you choose to spend it
Wtf happened to this thread? Sell some shit or gtfo! Get this bitch back on track. Faaccckkkk!!! More drama than the bold and the beautiful.
Quoted from dudah:
Parts - Wanted
WTB Bally -54 transformer and rectifier boardNew!Wanted! “My Xenon is missing the whole power supply board.
Need E-122-142 transformer and AS-2518-54 rectifier board.
Also open to other models of the rectifier board as I can make an adapt...”
1 day ago Chicago, IL
In need of a Bally transformer/rectifier combo. It'd be great to find a local one!
While I have a model specified, I'm open to anything as I can make an adapter.
I have a used rectifier board, but not a transformer. Let me know if you're interested.
I've bought 2 games within the state of WI. My other games have come by way of reimports (Spain, and the Netherlands), a couple from MN Twin Cities area, one from TX, one from MI, and one from northern IL, so yeah, it's a little dry within a couple hours of here.
Thinking about listing my Paragon soon. Lots of new stuff replaced on it. Has typical insert cupping, and a little wear on the pf, but it plays and presents well. If you were at MRP this last year, you likely played it. Let me know if you're interested.
Quoted from egyptrus:
I emailed him when he first put it up for sale with a "make me an offer" response. I told him that craigslist isn't the place to do an "auction". He eventually got back to me saying that he'd put a price of $2k on it and that he had an offer of $1500. Apparently, it was his Grandpa's, it hasn't been played in years, he didn't have the keys, and the game didn't work. I opted out of the "auction" at that point.
Basically, I think he didn't know what he had and when a few people responded he put the high price on it.
Eh, doesnt matter what the reason is. You do your research and you put out a fair price. If you dont know, you get in touch with some people that might know. The internet has all the information in the world. He just needed to spend the 2 minutes to look for it. With that said, I think he had an idea, and he wanted to milk it. I dont deal with those types.
Did someone here inquire about or pick up the 2 Meteor projects in the Chicago area?
Quoted from GAP:
Projects for sale, as is, come and check them out at my shop, no pics at this time. Some work to a degree some are dead. I dont have time to go through them at this point. Most prices are under pinside. Gottlieb's all came from a collection, those dont need much.
High speed $1100 does not work
Mars God of war, works to some degree $1000
Volcano $800 works to some degree
Lectranamo. Boots up. Does not coin up or star game.$900
Checkpoint boots, playfield wear. $1600
Secret service, did not turn on when picked up. $1200
Freddy Krueger. Not sure on boot up, think it did, has playfield wear down between flippers. $1700
Big hurt, boots and plays, missing speaker plastic, needs 1 tip replaced. Could use a new ribbon cable $1800
4 million BC , did not work, lady said it worked then died.$900
Can you provide pics or more details for those that can't visit the shop or aren't as local?
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