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Chicago Gaming production and communication discussion

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1 year ago


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#66 1 year ago
Quoted from KingPinGames:

Nope. Your spot is your spot. We (typically) get games on location first to help generate more sales, but then we go down the list as they were ordered. I believe you are number 9 or so on the list.
We (distributors) are just as frustrated as the rest of you. Rumors of another game coming soon is just not going to sit well with distributors that are waiting on games (from other manufacturers too).
We try to be as transparent as possible, but when we don't get regular updates it is hard to give customers regular updates.

Rumors of a new game are meaningless. CGC timelines are just word-salad. We heard rumors of CCr in 2019… here we are in 2023 and most of us don’t have games.

#106 1 year ago
Quoted from jfh:

Why would they build and stockpile the games- even assuming there was the space for 1000+ games which didn’t incur a related expense - rather than SEs that they could get paid for? CGC doesn’t get paid until a game is ready to ship. A variation on it (ship the LE and the associated topper later) was discussed at length in the owner’s thread.
I would love to have been a fly on the wall for many discussions but it doesn’t make sense this would have been one of them.

Yeah... the cost to just sit on 1000 games would have been in the millions.

#108 1 year ago
Quoted from Ballderdash:

The rest of the CCr LE components are just sitting at the factory during that time. Not much of a difference.
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What’s the cost to CGC to delay their next title if they have to bump the rollout and production schedule of that game while they produce CCr LE’s instead?

I doubt that… especially bigger and/or shorter lead time items. I’d be shocked if they had 1000 cabinets just lying around.

#114 1 year ago
Quoted from Ballderdash:

But also if they don’t, then what do you do with the staff that’s hired to build those cabinets while the production line sits idle?
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My point is downtime costs the company money. You might as well keep things rolling so production doesn’t grind to a halt. It takes time and money to ramp up. Depends on if its cheaper and/or more efficient to stockpile or not...

they make things other than pinball machines. I am sure they can be redeployed to do other things... and even if they didn't they would probably lay them off. I doubt they have enough free cash flow to stockpile $5-6Million in inventory for a year.

#133 1 year ago
Quoted from Ballderdash:

Fortune 500 companies say “build-shy” strategy is the most efficient. I’m not smart enough to disagree. See below.
“Automotive News reports that the chip shortage is biting especially hard into Bronco deliveries at the moment, with trucks stacking up in a lot outside the Michigan Assembly Plant... Ford's dealer council head believes the current process is the most efficient, with Ford continuing Bronco production and waiting on chips before delivery. Ford isn't the only automaker doing this so-called "build-shy strategy"...” - https://www.autoblog.com/2022/02/20/ford-bronco-delays-communication-chip-shortage/
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“The Detroit Free Press reports that General Motors is pursuing the same strategy as Ford, called "build-shy." The term means building as much of a vehicle as possible, with final assembly waiting for the last components.” - https://www.autoblog.com/2021/08/09/gm-suvs-parked-semiconductor-chip-shortage/

Apples to oranges… the big three have billions of dollars in working capital. The cost of the vehicles sitting is absorbed through their portfolio. Also the supply chains are different- if CGC doesn’t buy spinners and flippers the entire supply chain won’t go bankrupt. If ford halts deliveries on engines it could grind down their supplier.

Plus the finished goods inventory is nonexistent- unlike previous points… automakers typically have billions sitting in finished food inventory on dealer lots… now that inventory sits one step upstream

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