When you said
"Another resistance test. With machine unplugged"

I didn't know if you wanted me to touch the hold relay switch leads or the hold relay coil leads.

I did everything else you asked and only got a number 1 meter reading for the remaining wires.

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Just tried urning on the machine with the game over relay in the up position so the game over light does not show up on the screen. It immediately blew a fuse.

I replaced the fuse and tried it with the game over relay in the down position so it says game over in the back box as it should. I hit the replay button and it also blew a fuse.

Good thing I was able to track down four packs of 15 amp fuses at Home Depot today.

There was a man in between first and second base. I manually advanced the score wheels turned on the machine and the animation motor moved a bit I believe clearing the runner off for a reset.

I hit the replay button, the score reels went back to zero and the fuse blew again

Good to hear from you Howard and thank you for the suggestion.

I'm such a stickler for making sure there are no errors in my posts.
I'm attributing it to the trauma of my machine not working that caused my mistake...are you buying that?

Of course, any help you can provide will be greatly appreciated.

I put the two test leads into the lock relay holes where the wires are nearly soldered. It only registered a 1.

If I move the test leads around a bit the numbers were jumping very high from the mid-twenties to high eighties at times.

After hooking the alligator clips to the white wire and touching the individual green wires I got a 0.8 reading on both of them.
The two black wires that are already soldered from the lock relay just gave me a 1 reading.

I noticed the board under the coil is not solidly attached like the other coils. You can move the board out quite a bit where most of it is not under the coil. The wires though, are still attached. (See picture)

Could that be a big problem?

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Shall I have the game relay in the up position or the down position with the game over relay light in the backglass?

I started the machine with the game relay in the down position. Turned on the machine and hit the replay button.

The game reset, the main relay bank energized and promptly blew a fuse.

Will either of these circuit breakers will do, or is one preferred over the other?

https://www.mouser.com/ProductDetail/Carling-Technologies/CMB-103-11C3N-B-A/?qs=ZxoYUWRuLON4N9V2ZXbdCQ%3D%3D
(currently none in stock)

https://www.mouser.com/ProductDetail/Tyco-Electronics/W57-XB7A4A10-10/?qs=wvf%252bmaPDr9PlDs%2FGzbJzaA%3D%3D
(currently 1671 in stock)

"Chances are slim, but would you happen to be in Upstate N.Y.? "

Hey Mopar,

Thank you for joining the conversation. No, I'm based in New Jersey.

I'll disregard those circuit breakers.

PinballDaveH,

I'll try that later tonight when I get home from work.

Bulls Eye Baseball was on my short list of pitch and bats to get along with Home Run and TV Baseball.

Thank you Dave, I'll take a look at it.

I know you've gone over it before but I still don't understand how if I manually activate the slider and curve relay the motor does work, the arm comes around and can actually pitch a ball.

How that could be defective?

Are you saying the relay coil is also defective?

I'm really sorry if I don't fully grasp what you're saying so I hope you understand.

Would this be the correct part to order:

https://www.jameco.com/z/35-2115-BU-GC-Electronics-Circuit-Breaker-15A-250VAC-2-Pin-Bulk_621430.html?CID=MERCH

So basically, I solder a 15 amp fuse to the leads, then simply plug it into the machine like I normally do with a fuse?

The green wire is located on the second switch from the top of the game over relay.

It is connected to all of the other relays on the main relay bank accept the "first shot" relay.

The other wire on the opposite lug is tan green (see picture in front of paper.). I'm assuming you're referring to this tan green wire when you say the non grey wire?

I'll take the schematic and go through the coil list. It's going to take a while so I don't anticipate me finishing tonight.

Also, is that circuit breaker from that link the correct product I should order?

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Okay, I hope I did this right because I decided to go crazy and just measure anything I could find.

I attached the black lead to the lug next to the green wire lug (2nd switch from the top)(tan green or grey green) and measured everything with the red lead.

After a while it was a little too much to write down the wire colors so I just added the numbers for each lug.

Lock Relay White Wire 00.7 Green Wire 00.4
25 Cent Relay White 00.7, Yellow 22.7
Replay Relay White 00.7, Orange 12.2
6 Bnk SB Reset White 00.6, Yellow 15.6
Cancel SB Relay Reset Plain Wire 00.6, Yellow 15.3
Out Relay White 00.6, Yellow 14.0

MAIN BANK
1st Shot Grey 00.5, Orange 03.6
2nd Player White 00.6, Orange 03.8
1st Player White 00.6, Orange 03.7
2nd Coin White 00.6, Orange 08.8
Game Over White 00.6, Orange 03.8
Start 00.7, Orange 08.8
Both Coils Register 1

CANCEL RELAY BANK
Cancel Out White 00.5, Orange 03.6
C - White 00.5, Orange 03.6
A - White 00.5, Orange 03.6
N - White 00.5, Orange 03.6
C - White 00.5, Orange 03.6
E - White 00.5, Orange 03.6
L - White 00.5, Orange 03.5
Both Coils Register 1

SCORE MOTOR
Left 00.6 / 00.3

PLAYER CONTROL UNIT
One Lug 22.1, Other 1
Top Coil 05.8, 00.6
Lower Coil 02.6, 00.6

BONUS CONTROL
00.6, 00.4

AMIMATION UNIT
Animation Motor Relay - White 00.7, Brown 13.8
Animation Motor Reset Relay White 00.7, Brown 14.9
Reset Control Relay Plain 00.6, White/Blue 22.1
HR Target Extra Run Relay - White/Blue 00.4, Brown 00.5
Star Control Relay - 2 White Wires 00.7, 1 wire 00.4

Single Relay - Orange 13.8, White 00.4
Double Relay - Orange 14.0, White 00.4
Triple Relay - Orange 13.9, White 00.4

Lower Animation Coil 13.6, 00.7
Upper Coil 04.8, 00.7

No Match Unit 00.4, 00.7

Score Reels 04.6, 00.7

Score Reset Relay - Orange 07.3, White 00.7
Score Relay Coil - Orange 14.1, White 00.5
Score Relay Coil - Orange 13.9, 00.5
Credit Reel - Orange 0.61, White 00.7

Out Buzzer Relay - Orange 15.8, White 00.4
Regular Score Bleacher HR Relay - Orange 16.3, White 00.4
Target HR Relay - Orange 10.7, White 00.4

Curve Pitch Control Pink 15.6, 00.7
Slider Pitch Control Pink 15.6, 00.7

Bat Coil - 1, 1

Curve/Slider Control Unit 0.8
Bat Timer 7.1, 1
Bat Timer Motor - 02.9, 00.9

Top Relay (Unreadable) - 21.3, 00.7
Bat Relay - 15.5, 00.7
Bat Control Relay - 21.8, 00.7
Pitch Relay - 15.3, 00.7
Bleacher Extra Run - 15.1, 00.9

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Just so I get this correct. The game over relay will be in the up position that normally blows the fuse?

Also, the way I'm reading it you are saying to put the black alligator clip on the non gray wire and with the red lead get a reading on its other lug.

Then, move the black alligator clip to the next non grey coil lug and with the red lead test that other lug?

So I'm NOT going to have the black alligator clip on the second switch from the top in the game over relay next to the green wire any more?

Is that correct?

I'm just trying to visualize it while I'm at work and not actually in front of the machine.

I can't tell you how much I appreciate your patience.

When I took my test readings I had it in the down (game over) position.

Yes, I realized that after I made the post.
Things are happening here tonight, and I'm not sure I can get to the testing tonight.

Sorry, but If I can, I'll post the results.

I think I got everything.

If I missed anything, please let me know.

Also, I noticed some burn above the lock relay.
I've included a photo.

MAIN BANK with Meter set to 200 ohms:

Start Relay: 0.83
Game Over: 0.34
2nd Coin: 0.85
1st Player Lite: 0.34
2nd Player Lite: 0.34
1st Shot: 0.34
Lock Relay: 29.5

25 Cent Coin: 22.2
Replay Relay: 12.0
S/B Bank Reset Relay: 15.4
S/B Cancel Reset Relay: 15.0
Out Relay: 13.4

CANCEL BANK
Cancel Out: 3.4
C: 3.6
A: 4.2
N: 3.4
C: 3.6
E: 3.5
L: 3.4

HR Target: 11.3
Regular Score Bleacher HR: 16.2
Out Buzzer Relay: 15.6
Single: 13.7
Double: 14.0
Triple: 16.9
Star Control Relay: 00.7

Curve Control Relay: 15.2
Slider Control Relay: 15.1
TOP RELAY (UNREADABLE): 20.9
Bat Relay: 15.1
Bat Control Relay: 21.3
Pitch Relay: 14.9
Bleacher Extra Run (Fluctuating) 16.0
Pitch Motor: (Both Grey) 2.5

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I'll check that out later tonight when I get home from work.

Okay, once again let me make sure I did this correct.

I hooked the black alligator clip to the second switch from the top game over relay. The gray common wire that is right next to the green wire.

I then hooked up the red alligator clip to the unsoldered lock relay white wire.

I got a reading of 00.7

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I had all the wires still hooked up from the previous test. I advanced the player unit 1 rivet and the reading was still the same. It did not move.

How is the Star Control Relay disconnected. I didn't do anything to it?
Do you want me to unsolder it, THEN do the test?
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I unsoldered the Star Control Relay white with black wire.

I advanced the Player Unit 1 rivet and still got the same previous reading of 00.7

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No change at all.
Still 00.7

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I'll look for that main gray wire that is running across the cancel bank and unsolder it when I get home later tonight.

I left the wires attached from yesterday along with the Jones plugs unplugged.

I unsoldered from the cancel out relay bank the "L" Gray wire in "cancel.".

I still got the same result reading of 00.7

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Okay, I'll keep the test wires where they are, one on the grey common lock relay wire then
I'll trip each individual white relay on the main bank (game over, start, second coin etc) get a reading, and do a resistance test as well later tonight...

I took some tests for the main bank relay. I encountered a couple anomalies (higher readings) and had to retest two and three times before settling on a common number.

With the black alligator clips on the grey common wire on the lock relay I put the red alligator clips onto the white wire lug, tripped each individually and got these readings:

Start 00.4
Game Over 00.4
2nd Coin 00.8
1st Player 100 Lite 00.4
2nd Player 100 Lite 00.3
1st Shot 00.8

I then put the black and red alligator clips on the lug of each relay, tripped each individually and got these readings:

Start 16.8
Game Over 03.4
2nd Coin 16.4
1st Player 100 Lite 03.4
2nd Player 100 Lite 0.34
1st Shot 3.4

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