On the beer frame, it scores just like regulation and when set on 5th Frame (common for beer frame) a think
I remember a light gets lit and states Beer Frame on the backglass. I believe whoever gets a strike when
Beer Frame is lit, is owed a beer from the players that do not get a strike. But from what I remember, it scores
the exact same as regulation..
On Step Up, I'd check the Game Selection Step up unit making sure that the wiper is properly matched up with
its wiper board, and the same with the Frame Step Up Unit.. Also, did you go through and clean those unit's
and wiper board?
I forgot exactly the scoring on Red Pin, but perhaps that would also be coming from mis-alinment and/or cleaning on
the Frame and Game Selection Units.. Not in the game room, but I do still have a big ball Chicago Coin (Fleetwood)
set up in the local VFW. I'll see about going there this week and checking out Red Pin. Not sure, but I'm thinking
that it's 50 points for a Strike, and 70 in the frames when the Red Pin is lit (the red bulbs, or suppose to be red
bulbs, one being on each upper side of the#1 pin..
For now, I'd make sure the wiper along with the wiper boards are clean and making good contact with each other
on the Frame and Game Selection Units, and it wouldn't be a bad idea to clean the rest of the step ups (including
the Strike/Spare Step Up Units) if you hadn't already. I also lightly grease the wiper boards especially the Score Motor's
wiper board which it's wiper is rotating upon practically none stop while being played..
Let us know how you make out.. (T)

Just thought of another note. It's been a while I went through a Chicago Coin Bowler, but I'm thinking
maybe the Game Selection Step Up Unit's wiper may have individual spring loaded wipers. If so,
you'll want to take the wiper off, hold it in a flat position with the wipers facing downward, and put
a couple drops of light weight oil in each individual wiper holes, and move each up and down a couple of
times making certain not any of he wipers are sticky..
Maybe it's another step up unit that has the individual wipers, but I'm thinking maybe the Game Selection has..

It just dawned on me. The Game Selection Unit has a double wiper board. It's a little pain
to take those 4 small bolts off (don't lose the spacers), but well worth it to do a proper
cleaning. I now remember there's 2 or 3 Step Ups that are double plated including the
Score Motor and all should be one. I clean those wiper boards by putting a small amount
of cleaner on a small piece of Scotch Brite, then wipe off cleanly. Then a thin film of
light weight grease.. It's well worth it..

More rewarding too.
Those bowlers are the toughest thing i have run across.
all those step units have to be working correctly. even if you are not playing a particular game, the steps all pass info between each other, and need to work properly or you will have issues like you mentioned.

fattdirk when you get some time would you snap a few pics of your game? I have one of these that I am going to restore. The previous owner painted it so want to see what the original colors where!

That would work as it will give me an idea as to the color scheme! I can use the brochure for the pattern but the brochure is in B&W so I have no idea as to the colors used!

It's been many years that I painted the Top Hat, and can't remember its original colors..
But it wouldn't surprise me if Chris at "St. Louis Ball Bowlers" may be able to fill you in on that..
(314)581-2488

I had emailed Chris a while back and he didnt have any pics or info on the Top Hat!

Looking at the flyer they're a darker color so whatever the dark color is on the machine it would appear the gutters are that color!

The gutter color right there go fine with the machine and actually sparks a bit of a memory
of maybe being close to original, but its been 20 plus years since I restored those Chicago Coins..
For one of them, I remember from I believe 3/8" think Aluminum stock I made a cover for the
ash tray. The original covers are like 1/4" thick screened mesh..
Both your glass look to be nice.. (T)

We sell the original replacement ashtray covers for the ball bowlers. The game looks to be untouched, but to verify the gutter colors, just do some light sanding on them and see what is there.

Yes, we have the lower backglass for this game. We have all of the parts that are needed for the restoration. Front Shin Rubber, Chrome Rails and Risers, New Balls, New Lanes, Coin Box Sticker, Ball Stop,Coin Plate Cover and all of the electronics.

Oh, my mistake. I thought the gutters looked to be purplish pink. Grey I'd say is the wrong color..
There were issues with mostly all the Chicago Coins lower glasses that I've had..

Thanks for the pics!!

fattdirk it appears that the Top Hat and Champagne machines were the same color scheme. If that is the case than the gutters are probably the same as well. Look at the ebay link (below) and you will see the color scheme of the Champagne machine!

ebay.com link: Chicago Coin Champagne Big Ball Bowler 16 ft

Is the scoring inconsistent and scores different multiples? If so, check the 10-90 Relay
making sure the set of contacts that energize the score reel isn't too close. I've seen where
they were set to close and vibrated back staggering the score reel. If consistently scoring the
same wrong score, make sure when the Game Selection Unit is on Step up and Red Pin
that the wiper fingers are squarely on the proper rivots on the wiper board.
Most likely not, but perhaps a wire(s) may have came unsoldered on the backside of one of the
Game Selection wiper boards..