Yes, Thanks, and you alerted me in time. It was in Chicago. A few weeks after
someone I know was going to Chicago with his closed trailer. I helped him
with a couple things on his ball bowler, he helped with the trading exchange..
The timing was perfect..

Congrats on finding one! I’ve considered a couple times offering mine as a trade on some of the games you’ve posted although it’s not an add-a-ball. But it would be such a tough game to let go of. It’s such a unique game with lots of art appeal. Yours appears to be in great shape!

Thanks! I haven't played a Hula Hula yet, but I heard good things
and expect it wouldn't be an easy one to let go..
What machines of mine did you have some interest in?

Thought I would share this here, I know most folks are in the states. A 1963 Bronco on offer in London. in good condition but way too expensive

https://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/115610539726

about the equiv of $1150 - OUCH

Here is a photo of a Sun Valley at the Cleveland Pinball show (found on the net) without a credit window. Maybe the same game you are looking at?
Very likely CC made some games that could be sold and operated in the areas that did not allow free play, though Sun Valley may be just a "novelty" version that was not an add-a-ball. If you get the game please tell us if it has a way to earn extra balls.
The Sun Valley I am currently restoring is a replay model.

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I am working on a CCM 1972 Coin Door. The door is black. I see some games online with Black doors and the Majority with what looks to be a Gun Metal finish.

I am assuming someone has painted it - or did some come off the line black? As you can see it's got "some" rust, both surface and under the paint on the RHS where i assume its not been dealt with correctly. Im planning on sandblasting it then starting from scratch. Question being to what. Think i prefer the metallic finish - what finish would be inline with their original state?

Any advice on conserving the Decal would be wonderful - was going to mask it as i assume removal would damage it.

Looking for plastic coin slots. i see Marco has them but not the right size also the credit button which was Red but as you will see has faded back to white- anyone know where these can be sourced.

Thanks in advance.

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You can get a replacement sticker. I’d try to remove it with some heat and a scraper.

https://www.stl-bb.com/shop/chicago-coin-box-sticker/

Entry plate: https://www.siegecraft.us/presta/index.php?id_product=78&controller=product&id_lang=1

The paint on the door under the coin plate is most likely the original color. It looks like someone didn’t bother to remove it when they painted it black.

All mine have been a gunmetal/silverish color. Not black.

It seems Chicago Coin made a few 2 Player Add-a-Ball version machines,
Hula Hula, Bronco, Fireball, Mustang, Playtime, and others.
It wouldn't surprise me if maybe Sun Valley also, however, I don't think
I'll be able to verify that. It's looking like the one I was working on is just
a scammer, but it draw my attention seeing it didn't have a replay window.
I have a quick question. I'll shoot you a pm..

Coincidentally, both Chicago Coins! Your early 50s CC shuffle alley…I’d like to find a nice original one. I’ve been trying to figure out how to make one fit in the game room. And your Bronco. I’m a sucker for anything western themed.

I think you’ll find the Hula Hula to be quite unique with great gameplay. Seems to me like the CC engineers pulled out all the stops on this one.

Always fun to see your latest projects/pickups.

I think CCoin designers were trying hard in the 60s, but by the time the 70s rolled around, it was pretty much rinse and repeat type of designs.
OR making choices that were not very good.

Earlier this month I got in the repro backglss for the other Bronco
(which is also the Add-a-Ball version), so this one that I already went
through I'll be letting go..
I've been busy on a couple of bowlers, but today I did set up the
Hula Hula which was previously gone through, but it has a couple of
issues, so I'll be working on that this week.
I have the Gottlieb 2 Players all together, but maybe I'll be breaking
that up a little bit. The Hula Hula would look nice next to Pleasure Isle.
I have a Paradise also, but the room I have is once again limited to
have all three swinging the hips..

Thanks for this

Hey CC fans,

Somehow I have never commented on the fact that it would seem Fire Cracker is pretty rare, there being only four, count 'em, four listed in Pinsiders' collections.

One of whom is me! (I'm not posting a pic at this time because I still haven't done anything about the bad cabinet repaint it got before I acquired it, complete with a bunch of shiny paper star stickers on the head all around the backglass.)

Maybe I'm overthinking it, since no one complained when I took it to MGC years ago. Several people thanked me for bringing it to play. But still, I'm sure those star stickers got a few snickers when I wasn't around!

So, as for the rarity, it might seem pretty coincidental that I know of another Fire Cracker nearby, only 10 miles away in Oshkosh!

But it only seems that way, since I sought mine out after playing the other one. (Hey, it was only seven years ago! I'll get around to repainting it!)

Also, WTF is that video at the bottom of Pinside's Fire Cracker page? Am I to infer that chicks dig this game? https://pinside.com/pinball/machine/fire-cracker

I also have a CC big ball bowler, Corvette. Needs all the steppers cleaned, so I have been putting that project off big time. But it was "free."

It seems Fire Crackers may be fairly rare, but being in Wi., might yours be the
Add-a-Ball version. If so, I'd say very rare. How about the one 10 miles away,
would you happen to know about that one? All Chicago Coin 2 Player Add-a-Balls
seem to be very rare.
I wouldn't mind seeing pics. Does it have the Score/Instruction Cards?

No, it's replay, as I bought it from a guy in Illinois on eBay. It is not set up currently...

I don't believe the one in Oshkosh is add-a-ball, either. I would have remembered that from countless 2 player games down there.

I infer that the match lights on the replay version are used as the added ball lights on the AAB. The replay backglass even has SHOOT ADDED BALL NOW silkscreened but unused. https://www.ipdb.org/showpic.pl?id=850&picno=25602

If it's possible to convert to AAB, I'd love to do so!

So your Firecracker backglass has 'SHOOT ADDED BALL NOW'?
If you look at the Replay's version on IPDB, it shows another backglass that doesn't
have Shoot Added Ball Now.
On the Bally Loop the Loop AAB (Add-a-Ball) version, it does use the Match Feature
lights (the first 5) to display the added balls, but Chicago Coin 2 Player AABs doesn't.
On the Hula Hula AAB, at the end of one game, after the ball drained, the AAB knocker
knocked, but game was over. I looked, and it knocked because the last score number
matched the Match Feature number on the backglass. When I fired up the next game, it
began the game with an added ball. Shoot Added Ball Now light was on. After looking around,
there's a Match Feature In/Out plug on the fuse block board. It was plugged in the in position.
I recalled the AAB Bronco has Match feature numbers on the backglass, so I just now took
a look, and there's a Match Feature plug where the fuse holders are, and the Match Feature
lights are wired. I was thinking that doesn't seem right with Hula Hula, but I'll now have to
check and see if the Bronco does the same thing when the Match Feature is in the In position.
Don't count your Firecracker out not being an AAB version. Where it has Shoot Added Ball Now
on the backglass, are there wired lamp sockets on the light board?

Full disclosure: not only is my game not set up right now, I can't even get at the head, so I can't say whether the bg includes Shoot Added Ball Now. I did not notice the other one on ipdb without it, so I assumed it did.

The possibility of converting to AAB does have me a bit more motivated to get her going again! Just what I need , another project!

I was thinking you meant yours did have Shoot Added Ball Now.
Both on the AAB Bronco and AAB Hula Hula, the 0 - 9 Match
feature numbers on the backglass are not used to display the
added balls.
There's no 'SHOOT ADDED BALL NOW' silkscreened in this glass.
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Hello,
I'm working on a Stampede and wanted to know if anyone had any leads on a back door?

Odd coil looking for a new home - Does anyone know what it is or even need it?

I took this coil out of the Casino I am working on - it had a lot of swapped out parts and hacks - including this "Phonographic 184-205" Coil.

Can not find reference to it anywhere. It measures at 13.5 Ohms.

Happy to pass it on to anyone that needs it... Heck I'll even xmas wrap it!

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Got the backglass assembly on the Goalee done and wow does it look good. The backglass itself is original.

And no, there is no filter applied to that photo. The light really is ghosted around the lettering. There is quite a bit of mirroring on this backglass.

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Beautiful. The backglass looks like it was made yesterday. Amazing.

I checked the announcement story in Cash Box magazine (9/7/63, page 76), and there is no mention of AAB or any synonym thereof.
.................David Marston

Major update! From Billboard's post-MOA-show coverage (9/14/63, page 51) in an article about Chicago Coin:
"Incidentally, Chicago Coin showed a new Sun Valley two-player add-a-ball pin game for the first time -- in fact the first time a two-player pin game of any kind has been shown. Previously Sun Valley was available only in the familiar 'free game' models."
That establishes that at least a prototype exists.

I think that the remark about "the first time a two-player pin game of any kind has been shown" refers to the fact that Chicago Coin had never made a 2-player *pinball* game before Sun Valley, in the 30+ years they had existed up to that time. However, they had made 2-player pitch-and-bat games, and multi-player games in other genres.
.................David Marston

It could also mean (including themselves), no manufacturer before had made a
2 Player AAB where added balls can be accumulated on the same ball being played.
The Sun Valley I have is only the Replay version. The backglass is shot, so I'm having
one made from the image of a Sun Valley backglass that was on the internet.
If you zoom in the yellow on the bottom of the glass, you're able to make out the image
"SHOOT ADDED BALL NOW', so it appears Sun Valley Add-a-Balls was made.
From what I have noticed, all Chicago Coin 2 Player Add-a-Balls are pretty rare. I only
know of 3 Broncos, and 3 Hula Hulas. There's 1 Firecracker on the IPDB.
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I got all energetic today and excavated the Fire Cracker head, but sadly it has no added ball wording on the back of the BG.

I'd still be interested in converting to AAB -- I'd know what the light means...

Thanks to everyone who helped me out with the info on my coin door questions. here it is 3 weeks later. taken back to metal, primed, new coin slots and inserts, new credit button decal and Hammer sprayed Gun Metal.

My next quest is to find a new credit button as the one with the machine is broken at the back and held in by a nail through it. Any pointers appreciated.

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Nice job bringing that coin door back!

I’m not certain, but a Stern Electronics credit/start button may be an option for you.

https://www.siegecraft.us/presta/index.php?id_product=85&controller=product&id_lang=1

https://www.marcospecialties.com/pinball-parts/4A-146

Yes, I'd say the AAB version would surly be a plus.
I'm having a Sun Valley glass made (not digitized, but good enough for home play),
and having the 'SHOOT ADDED BALL NOW' added into the glass.
Sun Valley's Replay version on IPDB has a good rating, and years back, I actually went
through the Sun Valley, but can't remember its game play. If I do go through it again (which I probably will), I'm going to convert it to AAB..

https://pinside.com/pinball/forum/topic/show-us-your-em-bowlers-mechanical-and-old-electrical-toys-in-your-gameroom/page/47#post-7320753

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In response to the interesting posts about Chicago Coin Add-A-Ball games and a request to upload some pictures of the backbox of my Playtime AAB I am uploading photos to this forum. I got the game in Queens, NYC from the original home owner who had it for 50 years. When I got the game it was very dirty and did not work. The predominate "color" inside the game was black and shades of grey. Someone had sprayed the insides of the backbox with something akin to dark molasses or used motor oil. I have cleaned up the game and it is no longer in original condition. It plays like new. My CC Kicker is also an AAB game. The Hula Hula has an Italian acrylic backglass with no credit window and instead of match scores it has palm trees, but the game is a regular credit unit game. The Sun Valley is a credit game. I hope these photos are useful if you are working on a Playtime. The are exterior photos of my Playtime in my collection page.

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Repainted cab, recreated back glass, targets, playfield, side art — brought back from the dead to live again. I’ll add more photos later.

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On the Playtime, I only have the head of an AAB version. If I found a bottom, even a Replay
version, I'd be able to complete it as an AAB..
On your Hula Hula. Surely it gives credits for high scores, but does it also give credits when
the Kick Out hole is lit? I'm finding Chicago Coin AABs gives added balls the exact same as
their Replay versions give replays. Even the match feature, and like know on the Hula Hula's
replay version.
I have a Replay version Sun Valley, and all though I myself don't know of any, it's appearant
an AAB Sun Valley version was produced. I saw a Sun Valley glass in a pic, and all though not
clearly, you could see the "SHOOT ADDED BALL NOW" image. The Replay's version doesn't have
those light sockets, but they do have the 3 light socket holes.
Sun Valley only gives replays for high scores. Since my glass was toast, I had an AAB version
glass made and converting mine into the AAB. I have it so it gives added balls for high scores,
but I'm thinking to convert it so when all 9 numbers are lit on the same ball, not only 200
points, but it'll also give an added ball..
lmk on your Hula Hula. The AAB version gives 2 added balls when the Kick-Out Hole's left
light is lit, and 1 added ball when the right is lit... (T)

Yes, my Hula Hula adds credits as you achieve higher scores, but with the credit unit hidden by the Italian backglass (actually acrylic) I don't see the credits added: the game is on free-play. The Flash Score kickout saucer can add an extra ball or credit (Special). What I like best about Hula Hula is it goes great with Martin Denny and Arthur Lyman on the vacuum-tube powered Voice of Music record changer, and I can launch the ball and go make a drink with a little umbrella and when I come back the game is still playing. Makes them Bally, Williams and Gottlieb games so jealous.

Looking for some advice on how to restore or even replace the ball in play card on Casino. The red on mine has all but faded into nothingness - you can see slight remnants of it on the bottom edge.
Ive seen restored ones online. Would love to know how to go about this....

Pics here of mine as it is and one i found online.

Thanks in Advance.

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Look on my website http://www.inkochnito.nl
Look in the Chicago Coin section.
All the files you need are there.

Peter
http://www.inkochnito.nl

Anyone on here have an old 1940's Chicago Coin pin? I'm looking at a 1942 Home Run but don't know much about these vintage games. Looks a little rough and needs new plastics/bumpers. Not sure what I'd be getting into but I love the idea of adding one to my collection.

1942 would not have flippers.

Probably the wrong place to post, but it's worth a try. Working on a CC Coney Island rifle game. I'm in need of the Motor Jumper Unit or the cam that goes on it. Someone jerry-rigged a unit but the cam they put on it is incorrect. Thx
izzy

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picked this 1965 Par Golf up yesterday! Couldn't pass it up!

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this is awesome

Congrats! Wish one of these would pop up around here!

Hey all. Im doing a repaint on my Casino. i took about 30 scans and stitched it all together. Happy to share the files if anyone needs them. Heres the side as an example.

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I am working on a 1948 Crazy Ball and am looking for a few missing parts. The original request is in the EM seeking parts thread--link below:

https://pinside.com/pinball/forum/topic/the-em-seeking-parts-thread/page/193#post-7457084

anyone in this club try to source a replacement 8 track player for a CC game? Is there any records of sounds from games? It seems like the 8 track player is almost always missing from the old arcades, anyone have one? anyone got a pic of one?
Thinking about buying an old CC arcade but it's missing the 8 track, not sure how hard it would be to track down a replacement or wire up something that would work.
Thanks!
B

There are several threads with helpful information for both ChiCoin and Midway games that use 8-track cartridges. If you search just the "EM Arcade" sub-topic for threads about "sound" or "cartridge" you will probably find some leads.
.................David Marston

Thanks for the info, sorry for a redundant question, I did read through this thread to see if it was addressed, guess I should have cast a wider net!
B

If you have a Chicago Coin game that uses the 5 inch reels and the numbers are not good or you have some 5 inch reels that are not the right color, I have a solution that might work for you. One of the reels in my Sun Valley was destroyed by a sticking and thus overheated coil, but thanks to Pinside member Mopar I got two 5 inch reels, but they were yellow, which was a color used in the arcade games, but white reels are used in most Chicago Coin pinball games. I painted the reels white (Rust-Oleum American Accents Ultra Cover 2X Ultimate High Gloss Spray Paint) and then used Libre Office Writer (https://www.libreoffice.org/discover/libreoffice/) to create a vertical strip of the numbers that can be printed and affixed to the reel. I've done this before with Gottlieb scores reels that were in poor shape and once installed in the game no one but you will know the difference. The hardest part is finding the best font, which in this case is Futura Md BT with BOLD applied. I think the original printing on the reels may have been this font, but probably the metal version has been altered when changed to digital. The only number that is a tiny bit different is #1, but all the others are nearly identical to the original. Libre Office is free open source, so if you want to get a print that is identical to what I have created you should use Libre Office Writer to open the file. It took a lot of adjusting to get the number size correct and the spacing between the numbers exact, but one odd thing is the space between the 1 and zero is a tiny bit more than the other numbers, but that is what it takes to get a strip that exactly matches the numbers as originally printed on the reels. If you use glossy photo paper you will get a look very similar to the glossy white reels, but regular white printer paper is OK. I have an Epson ink jet printer with Epson glossy photo paper and using the setting for bright white paper gave much better results that the glossy photo paper options. I use Scotch Photo and Document double stick tape to attach the paper strip to the reel. The left margin is set to match the left side of the reel and you should cut the strip so that it is 1-11/32 or 1-5/16 wide. If you are lucky enough to have a printer that can handle paper that is 16" long you can adjust the document and printer settings to show you have 16" of paper and you will get one strip. Otherwise you will need to print the document as two pages on 8.5 x 11 paper, but one trick is to print page one on the paper, then turn the paper over (what was the top is now the bottom) and print page two, then you will have all the numbers on one sheet, a column of numbers on the left and right sides (save $ if you are using glossy photo paper). You carefully draw a line down the right side of the numbers (width as motioned), then cut out the strips and attach to the reel. There is a Mac version of Libre Office, but I can't say if the file I have created will be 100% the same on a Mac, and variations in printer software might cause changes. Printers can sometimes do strange things to some documents.
I hope this may be of help to someone who needs better numbers on some 5" Chicago Coin score reels.
Here is the link to the file: https://1drv.ms/w/s!AoV4c5m5_3LzapGp1ba2PiCvigs?e=uxG7x2