Might Walter have a different story. Hurricanes, Covid, moneys tied up in construction in North Carolina for 5-6 months? Joey what is going on.

JoeyItaliano

What do we want? Wally! When do we want it? NOW!

Maybe someone (@JoeyItaliano) could invite Wally to the conversation so he for sure knows this thread exists? We all want to know how this story ends.

Exactly, before your name is tarnished further. Does Wally even know about this thread and what's being said?

Yes, but how many checks has Wally16 supposedly sent and have gotten lost? Absolutely ridiculous. He knowingly gave him a bullshit tracking #

This means one of the 2 parties is full of shit. The same tracking # will not show up as 2 different things from the same website. I firmly believe that Wally16 is a complete bullshit artist.

Joey, how did he send you the tracking # ? Did he send you the number typed in or did he send you a picture of the receipt with the tracking #?

Yeah I would definitely be pushing for a wire transfer or something at this point

Something is starting to stink on this whole story

After being convinced by the strippers that Joey hadn’t suffered enough, Wally rented a Hummer Limo, threw a half working BSD machine in the back, bought a case of Mezcal, and lit out for Tia Juana, picking up every street walker on the way that would fit in it. With his greasy hands gripping the chromed-chained steering wheel and half a line of booger-laden nose candy dripping from his left nostril, Wally gunned the throttle of the huge beast at the border checkpoint - The last anyone heard of the whole party was some crazed ramblings of a rando sterno juicer who claims he saw the distant red glow of a DMD reflected off the sweat drenched cleavage of six or seven women slowly dancing around a half working pin in the middle of the desert, removing what can be loosely described as articles of clothing as Wally flipped his way to infamy on Pinside.

Yep. Can be spelled various ways. A man from Prague didn't have the money for a plane ticket, so he sent himself to America through the post. Just before he packed himself up, he notified his relatives in America that the Czech is in the mail.

Wally16 @Wally16 Wally16

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Dedicated to Wally.

He's around and checking messages (shocker). I messaged him about one of his games asking if he could ship and replied "Yes"

It's turned into something more than how it started...

That's called fraud. Time for a lawyer and some law enforcement.

There's not "more to the story." Joey sounds like a "difficult" buyer who takes forever to pull the trigger, and it sounds like he agreed to buy a game and then changed his mind a month or two later.

That's not a crime. Experienced sellers like Wally can sniff guys like that out a mile away, and either decide to deal with them or not. I've stopped corresponding with numerous potential buyers who I realized would not be worth the trouble. I never thought of stealing money from them instead.

The seller has decided that Joey "owes" him $2500 due to opportunity costs on the game he was holding onto, so has decided to steal $6,000 for revenge.

Seller sounds like a creep to me. There's no excuse for stringing along even an obnoxious buyer like this...the check is in the mail...fake tracking numbers...endless excuses. Ridiculous and indefensible behavior regardless of how many happy customers he has or how nice his house is.

This whole situation is so very convoluted and confusing. Perfect pinside fodder.

Everything he has is gold.

As I understand it, it was the other way around. The seller (Wally16) backed out of the deal because he had another buyer at a higher price. Then that deal fell through and Wally is blaming that on JoeyItaliano.

Though, it is possible that I'm mis-understanding it all too...It IS pretty confusing.

And out of the 4 forum posts, 3 were just him posting his marketplace ad.

You nailed it, as I still would have expected Wally16 in this thread early on. At this point I don't know what could he say... the apparently bogus UPS tracking number is fairly damning.

Either way, it doesn't matter at this point. Taking the information posted here at face value, Wally16 admitted several times in writing that he owes $6,000 to @joeyitaliano. Then after waiting months, Wally subsequently provides Joey with a photo of a $6,000 cashier's check that never materialized and a tracking number that does not track anywhere. <- It all boils down to this, and it looks really bad for Wally.

There are serious issues here... in my opinion, the criminal fraud boxes are checked for possibly wire fraud, mail fraud, etc. @joeyitaliano, have you contacted the authorities yet?

Except Joey won't answer how he got the tracking #. Did Wally supply him the number or did Wally actually take a picture of the receipt with the tracking #. BIG difference.

Something is just missing in this whole thing.

JoeyItaliano ?

Not defending the seller.. they just need to settle the outstanding $ obviously...

But you say "Then after waiting months"... to me, Everything was reset when the Playboy was on the table.. so the only date to work from is the Cheque is in the mail. This was on January 9th, so it has not yet been a month technically..

Clearly, both the buyer and seller need to agree to binding pinside arbitration.. so let's hear the full story from both sides.

Maybe we should hear 1/16th of the story from the side that hasn't responded one bit before we hear more out of JoeyItaliano?

"Months" is how long it felt like when I read the original post.

But I will happily take your word for it that I made that misinterpretation.

We should, but nobody is stopping that.

Wally16

6000 bucks in the DR for a month +.
Wall E is probably just Livin it up

New to Pinside yes. That does not make a difference at all in regards to bullshit.
All story's have two maybe three sides.

Pinside court is in order.

Good luck getting your funds I am sure you will if you have not received them already.
No one has heard Walter's defense or side of the story.

You will deposit your 6k and all the BS will end besides the damage.

i sent wally a pm, said check was sent jan 31st. ...........

Wally is a legit seller. Money is not an issue. He will for sure pay whatever is owed. He’s an honest pinhead. And will always take of his customers.

The larger Question here is:
Should the Pinside platform Create an internal Review system to help the buyers and sellers with disputes?

Something like EBay Resolution center

No.

Why would the people who run this site want to get involved in that ?!

What's a check?

I know I have said it before, but even merely reading the posts and reactions in THIS single thread (with zero info from Wally’s possible take on things)… I trust pinsiders to tell me what is what as much as I trust my dog to do my laundry.

And? lol

It’s a move made upon a skater on the opposing team who controls the puck.

You mean people that buy high priced toys and then bitch about them aren't the most rational, level-headed people and they tend to jump to conclusions without all the facts...sounds about right.

You gonna use this response in multiple threads? It's getting old. Yes, we understand that pinsiders are not a valuable data base. But your dogs laundry habits are uninteresting.

No, there really isn't an upside to "officially" mediate disputes. It's complicated and time consuming.

If disputes don't get worked out privately, they usually get worked out after being presented in public like this. Either because people care about their reputations, and/or there is good advice given on how to address the situation.

A situation where the moderation team might officially step in is if it turns out someone was intentionally and literally scammed by an actual scammer (not if someone simply says they were "scammed" when there was just a disagreement of some sort or mismatched expectations). Or, possibly if someone is habitually causing problems.

In any case, I hope this situation gets worked out.

Oh my most sincerest of apologies great sir! A single repetition… that is getting old… on Pinside nonetheless… my great goodness how horrible for you!

Yeah. Meh.

Shocked I tell yah

Definitely two sides to this story. I had a lengthy conversation on the phone with Walter last night.

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It would be really nice if he came here and told it then. The message logs that have been posted here tell a rather unflattering story and proxies coming and saying things like this aren't really doing much to rectify it

But these are teasers setting up for Season 2 of this saga.

So you're telling me we've reached the part of the story where Netflix cancels the show?

Because it can be made into a revenue source. $$$.

I am pretty sure that even something simple, like a Pinside Escrow service, would work well.

These machines are getting so pricey that a neutral third party entity that acts as a money gatekeeper for a fee would provide a valuable service.