The majority of owners, if they elect to change the songs, will likely opt for the older, non-remastered versions of the same songs. Some folks may change out songs altogether, but the DMD animations are kind of tied to that specific song.

I'm going to change as many as possible as long as the length is the same. After a quick review, it's maybe 50%. I'll also change Dr. Love to God of Thunder and change the match sequence song.

Hopefully will update by this weekend, so I'll report back.

How hard is this to do?...I would love to change Dr.Love to Firehouse.

Whoo, hoo, yeah!!

Would anyone whose actually swapped out songs on KISS be interested in posting a short tutorial? For those like myself who aren't as tech saavy as alot of Pinsiders. I'm nervous I'll screw my machine up. Is it possible to go back to the default songs if you ever wanted to? Are you able to have the dmd display newly added song titles? I'd like to replace 8 songs with the original recordings and 2 with different songs altogether. Thanks to anyone who contributes to this thread.

https://pinside.com/pinball/forum/topic/tips-for-getting-sound-files-ready-for-pinball-browser

I've used this on most of my games. I'll report back on Spike.

Does pinball browser even work on spike? There was another thread about the spike system file layout.

Time to get She's So European, A World Without Heroes, and Ugh! All Night on the game!

Cool! Sounds like you'd have to swap the songs everytime there is a code update. Btw KISS' Smashes Thrashes & Hits has 8 of the 10 songs needed to do an originals version song swap. They were remastered in '86/'87 and would work perfect I think.

Can you only change songs out for another? Or can you add new songs? Adding Heaven's on Fire using the Hotter than Hell animations would be pretty cool.

Attempt #1.

I updated each song with the original recording except Detroit Rock City & Rock And Roll All Nite (both songs were either too short or too long).

I replaced Dr. Love with 100,000 Years and Hotter Than Hell with Strutter. Both of those songs were the same length within a few seconds.

I'll experiment more based on the results. I didn't change any callouts.
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That is so awsome! That song needs to be on the game.

So in essence, if you want to change them all, it really won't change the gameplay too much will it besides the call outs?

Game play will be better

The game doesn't change at all except for the songs. I haven't taken a look at alternate callouts, and the code is still too early anyway to make much of an effort.

What versions are you using and how's the sound quality?

I don't wanna change the songs, I like them the way they are, very good quality too.
The city's text and callout would be fun to change though, could change it to my own city (eh... farmers village)

Ya it is fun when you live in the Detroit metro area,amh also calls out michigan in one of the modes

I understand if you upload a song that is shorter in length than the original there will be a gap in the music. But will all other sound effects still work?

I gotta agree. I listened to the original black diamond and its such a bad quality recording. The fullness just isnt there and the vocals arent as good. I think we will keep ours the same.

I will thank you. What's a good target range to shoot for? +/- 1 to 5 sec?

How do you register??? by donating via paypal?? do you get a license code after you donate????

I like the remakes better and I was a big fan back in the day and was at the one of the Cobo hall shows they recorded kiss alive at,I believe it was a few nights they recorded for the album,the new stuff sounds great and this pin is the first I have heard of these remakes

I've had a few pm's about Kiss code with the original tracks. I'm still tweaking a few settings but I'll link to Dropbox in a few days.

Just got my Premium the other day and wanna give this a shot.... I'm going to try to get this to work on a Mac, if not I have a old windows laptop to fall back on. Were hosting Thanksgiving and I bet no-one but us 40 years and older will even notice if I replace a couple of Kiss songs with other older Rock songs.

Looking forward to the new mix! A friend of mine hates the music selection Stern used.

It would be great if you could define and upload bookmarks

My changes:

"Black Diamond" >> "I Was Made for Loving You." Had to fade out about 12 secs early.

"Calling Dr. Love" >> "God of Thunder." Had to fade out about a minute early. "God of Thunder" now plays during Demon MB.

"Heaven's on Fire" >> "New York Groove." Had to "clone" about a minute of the song at the end because "NY" was quite a bit shorter. I did this in Audacity by copying and pasting the final minute onto a new stereo track. I deleted the original fade out and picked a spot where it sounds pretty seamless. "NY" now plays during the Wizard mode.

"Lick It Up" >> "Calling Dr. Love." Now "Calling..." is a song choice. Had to "clone" about 15 seconds to the end.

"Love It Loud" >> "Strutter." Had to "clone" about a minute to the end.

I've never done that, so let me play around and figure that out.

I would like the idea of changing the Demon multiball to God of Thunder or War Machine, something more fitting for Gene's persona. Also, since the onscreen displays are set for the songs, I hesitate to change any of the game mode songs though there are a lot of KISS songs that I would rather listen to while playing (I don't need to hear Lick It Up or Heaven's On Fire any more in my lifetime) like Creatures Of The Night, I Want You, God Of Thunder, etc.
1) do I use Pinball Browser to put God Of Thunder in place of Calling Dr. Love but make the God Of Thunder mp3 identical length?
2) if I were to change another song mode song (ie change Lick It Up to say Makin' Love), how does one change the DMD display so there is no text of Lick It Up but rather Makin' Love?

You'll need to scroll through the messages and change all song titles to reflect the title you want displayed on the dmd. Using your example you'll need to change everything that says Lick It Up to Makin' Love. Aside from the song title there's usually only a couple other messages that use the same song title. Since I already had Heaven's On Fire in my song list I changed the grid multiball to Shout It Out Loud. In that case I had to change 5 total messages to reflect Shout It Out Loud. That was the most messages for one song that I had to change.

God of Thunder sounds great during Demon MB. Yes, replace Calling Dr. Love with God of Thunder, and edit to the same length (fade out).

Like thundergod76 said, you change all the instances of the song title, but leave any other characters alone. It seems on 5.76 (or maybe on SPIKE?), I'm not able to check the box to allow more characters if the title is longer than the original. I was able to do that with MET and an older version of the browser.

Below is a pic of changing the text. Orange circle is the messages tab for changing text. Red circle is where you can search and the arrow takes you to the next instance. Blue circle is the where you don't want to change any characters or words that are not part of the your new title. Leave the % and other symbols in place. The green shows how many times I changed "Heaven's on Fire" to "New York Groove."

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1) So when replacing the song (in my case Calling Dr. Love with God Of Thunder), does the God of Thunder edit have to be exactly 3min23s951ms to match the Calling Dr. Love file?
2) I'm trying to save a new copy of the firmware and the small "floppy disk" save icon doesn't seem to do anything
3) I'm used the search box under messages and can't find any incident of Calling Dr. Love. I'm almost positive during Demon Multiball is says Calling Dr. Love at some point... am I mistaken?

Did you just use a volume fade at the end so it faded out to exactly 3min23s951ms?

I can't seem to figure out how to replace the track with my new, edited track using Pinball Browser. I can play Calling Dr. Love (REQUEST 35), but can't seem to find a way that you actually replace it with the new track. Do I need to use the purchased version to use the edit and save features?

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Spikes firmware are too big to be loaded into memory. As a result, each modification you make is immediately written to the file.

The "Save" button makes every modification you made "consistent" so that the game can accept the modified firmware. This is also automatically done when you quit Pinball Browser (provided you modified something in the firmware) : you generally don't need to use the "Save" button on Spike firmwares.

If you modify a Spike firmware and your computer crashes before you quit Pinball Browser or click on "Save", the modified firmware would be rejected by the game. In this case, just open the firmware and click on "Save" to make the firmware consistent again.

This game screams for a few musical edits. I'm looking forward to seeing a modded game.

Is there an easy way to get the sounds from the Bally Kiss pin? Would like to play with swapping some of the original sounds into the new game.

Holy s**t this is a fantastic idea! I'd love to have the classic KISS Bally "Wa wa wa wa" sounds for the orbits or something. Something tells me this wouldn't be easy though.

Yes, you need the purchased version. Make sure you put the token id in the notes of your donation in order to get the license key. I missed that step and had to email separately.

PM sent regarding the steps for song replacement.