Am I a douche for buying a car instead of a truckload of defective pinball machines?

Or am I a douche for having a clear bra on the front of my car to avoid..... eh, let's use the word, divots?

If I could afford a Lamborghini, people could call me a douche bag all they wanted and I wouldn't even care!

So I'm NOT a double douche for buying $250k+ worth of pinball machines, but I AM a douche for buying a car with a clear bra. Got it.

Haters gonna hate.

I upvoted your post. If I could only get Double Douche approved by DMV on a license plate, I'd do it: DBLDOUSH

So this is wear this thread ends up after 1000 post

CBS is not in the game of trying to ruin a company, so you know where that will go, but all kidding aside, I do understand the frustration, just not the path you are taking to try and get resolution. I've said a million times they need to find someone with some public relations skills to be the face of their company, as they their own worst enemy in the public eye. I'm sure Gary will come up with some solution for you, but most likely the wait is in response to all of the negativity. Not the way most of us would handle it if it were our company, but human nature is to push back when pushed. Trace it back to the cave-man days! lol I do hope you see some resolution soon.

I think DOUCHE2X would be perfect for you.

If that's taken, then D-BAG or TOOL would be reasonable substitutions.

People only want quote ExtremeP when it's convenient to bash Stern. See his comments on JJP shit PFs and quality

That said, his Iron Man and Avatar pins clean up like new after 17k plays

I have had no problems communicating with Stern privately on my issue. First one on my 5th Nib

I think D Bag would be cool. There used to be a guy in my area that should have had the D Bag tag, instead he chose 1 Stud.

I seen a woman driving a Benz not long ago with a license plate that said "Was His" lol. That's gotta be a real kick in the balls to the guy she was married to!

Hey iceman, how awesome would it be to see KPG tooling around in his Mclaren with a license plate that says F STERN on it? Haha

Wow. Thanks for your contributions to this thread. Clearly you've decided to stay off topic and continue to make this personal.

It's just a joke, don't take it personally.

I probably have never met you, so anything I say about you can only be in jest.

I simply played off of the old adage "Anytime somebody finds a way to tell you they own a Lamborghini, you instantly know they are a douche"

All in fun...

Communication?

Dutch Pinball. What a shit show that is. Not only do people wonder if they are getting their pins, Rare is still waiting down at the docks for his pin to arrive, the Qc is garbage

JJP? What happened to the no pre order pledge? When is DI shipping for the deposits they have taken? Nobody knows to this day what the CE really is!

Yep, just awesome

The topic is exhausted.. many people have said its a waste of time and there is zero proof this thread is helping ..now having some fun & calling out douche bags on the interweb! that never gets old!

:lalala:Pretty impressive. Route Stern pins and get a Lamborghini

Q: How do you end up with a million dollars from a pinball route?

A: Start with two million dollars.

KPG. Have you asked your distributor to initiate a three way conference call with Stern and see if you can all get on the same page? It seems like it may be beneficial to see who is doing what about your pin without wondering if anything is being done.

I personally have had great luck with Stern customer service when calling them direct.

You obviously didn't see the segment. I would have slept through it myself but my mother-in-law called and woke me up to tell me.

Anyway, it was a prepared piece that could've been waiting for a slow day for months. Roger Sharpe was fellated briefly then Gary was trotted out for a couple of his usual chestnuts. No actual news was included here.

That's for sure.

http://www.cbsnews.com/videos/pinball-in-back-and-running-full-tilt/

Perhaps, but they had time to put it up on their Facebook. That is about the amount of time it would take to communicate to those affected by issues what the status of the situation is.

Ahhhh first world problems.........

yeah it gets old.

got something relevant to add ?

Completely over the line.

Talk about not being funny.

This is completely bogus, and I am surprised that you would make this kind of claim Vid.

I don't give a shit what Stern or any other manufacturer puts in their warranty, or excludes from their warranty for that matter, as there is an implied warranty of merchantability that all products sold carry. I have seen his GBLE and there is no way that he would not be entitled to compensation for the defective pin that he was sold.

The law allows merchants to avoid this implied warranty.

" In most states, for a seller to disclaim the warranty, the disclaimer must be in writing and conspicuous; the buyer must be aware that the warranty won’t cover the product. "

That is why Stern tells you, clearly, in writing, that the wood finish is not covered.

http://consumer.findlaw.com/consumer-transactions/what-is-the-warranty-of-merchantability.html

I thought you just said you were going to sell the game and move on? You're burning bridges and now making indirect threats?

Rob

I dont percieve anything he said as a threat. All the guy wants is a mother effin new playfield and some communication from Stern, thats it! I cannot believe people are so appalled by him being pissed off. He spent nearly 9 thousand dollars on a clearly defective product and isnt being treated right. Thats a sh*tload of money to spend and then get treated this way as a customer. I dont even care if they are pissed at him and hate his guts, just give the guy a new playfield and be done with it already, because its the right thing to do!

Why does everyone keep jumping on KPG for burning bridges? He spent a lot of money on what turned out to be a defective product. Gary Stern himself said he would fix it and it is not fixed and they have gone silent. I would be mega pissed too!

If a company is going to penalise a customer for pointing out the company sold a defective product I would want nothing to do with that company. Stern is the one in the wrong here not KPG. If stern will only back its products if you say good things about them that is a pretty messed up company and I can't believe people keep defending them.

If stern will only back its products if you say good things about them that is a pretty messed up company and I can't believe people keep defending them.

Just thank God that stern still makes games. It's ok that they fall apart after a few games and they have gone up in price to the point that most can't afford them and they sell games with no intention on completing the code. Just praise Gary

I actually am thankful for stern and I love their games, but when someone has a problem like this they need to communicate with them and make it right. I love Stern and im a customer, but I wont back them on this situation here.

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whatever the case. any manufacturing defect should be replaced with a refund.. no questions.

i guess pinball sales are an exception

Of course it's the right thing to do. I've been through a playfield replacement myself with a Met Premium because it was warped. That was 5 months of back and forth to get it done. Yeah, I know the frustration first hand. There was a time I wasn't even sure they would replace the playfield because I claimed the issue 9 months after I bought it, even though it was messed up from the beginning. I just never realized it was a big problem until I spent more time trying to figure out why the playfield didn't fit in the cabinet properly or that I could never level it properly.

I hope he gets it replaced soon.

Rob

update time for me. 1 week in on the playfield replacement for my GB Pro at 120 plays. No hints of ghosting on the inserts so far. Only the 1 little chip out of the right saucer that happened pretty much right away last week, sealed it up with a little crazy glue and its been solid. Ordered a set of cliffys, for the drain, shooter lane, and scolari drops, will install them soon as I get them. I expect i'll have 200 plays by then.

In terms of how long it has taken to get the playfield. I started my process early August, and got my replacement on Feb 4. so right around the 6 month mark.

Just as reminder, when you get your playfields to swap, take some time and remember any mods or additions you made that you will need to take off the old playfield. A forgot a couple of things such as a stiffer launcher spring to stop the ball whizzing into the back panel, and a drain guard. If you added shims to the slimmer mech, any extra lighting, PKE mirror, etc, be sure to remove them. Stern is NOT removing your components and placing them back on the playfield they ship you. Something else for the purists....remove your "LE" cardboard luggage tags from the wire harness under your playfield and put them on your new field. The one I got in my box had "Premium" tags, which is the same as an LE, but if you are one of those OCD folks like me, you might want to save your LE stamped ones to put back on the game.

Kpg and everybody else that deserve a replacement PF should and will get one, eventually. Why would you even want a replacement PF until you knew the issues were worked out? I don't get it. Maybe to sell it before market tanks? Ok

Maybe its just because i'm such a likable guy , I got my BM66LE fixed pronto, great communication and service. Chas and Patrick sent me the turn table mech and the node board i needed right away. That thing ain't cheap btw. Game room guys excellent too.

Today, tech resoldered the sheared off wires, re installed the mech with little difficulty, glad he was doing it and not me though, and popped in the new node board. With travel time, 2 1/2 hours total. Would have been a lot less time if we weren't BS ing the whole time.

Very interesting guy, been around since the 70's as a tech, operator, owner etc. Great stories

Glad you got it fixed iceman! Is it as good as your GB game? Be honest!

Honestly, no. But GBLE is just amazing for me along with TWDLE.

It has the potential to be a great pin and more importantly has the fun factor like GBLE.

I cant wait to see and play a Batman in person, maybe this week hopefully! My GB should be here in 2 weeks, cant wait!

Congrats, you will love that pin! Code is really good, magna slings are awesome, subway ramp is my favorite ramp shot even ahead of Whitewater insanity falls, ecto goggles, phenomenal light show, etc....game is packed.

BM66 is not "packed" like GBLE, but the theme integration is spot on and the LCD is fantastic. Another fun pin that Lyman will make great.

I played a GB Pro first, then like 4 months later a Premium and was blown away. I played nearly 4 hours and didnt want to leave it. I then went back to the bar that has the Pro to make my final decision and I knew that I had to have the Premium model. The Pro is still a fantastic game but the Premium is really really special with Ghostbusters. I dont care what anyone says, I still believe that GB may be Sterns best game ever!

Crazy it has to get this far for people to get answers and fixes for their machines.

Can you ask the Illinois attny general, along with the New Jersey AG to look into price fixing between Stern and JJP too while you are at it?

It's the high pricing issue that is going to impact these guys in 2017, not QC

When people start figuring out all these newly minted $8500-$9500 Woz, TH, DI's AND Stern premiums and LE's $7500-$8500, won't bring anything close on the secondary market it will be back to PROS and boutique runs like BM66

High prices hit a brick wall in 2017

You are such a Douche iceman!

I definitely agree with you about prices though. People will not continue to pay these insane prices.

Imagine that...buying something, using it, and then selling it for less......Oh the humanity!