(Topic ID: 197806)

Change in compensation for bringing games to Expo?


By epthegeek

1 year ago



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    #1 1 year ago

    Got a Chicago Expo mailing list thing on 9/9 that has this curious bit at the top where the show is asking people to bring games:

    "We will offer a one day admission for each game that you bring or a $30 credit per game, per day against whatever admission package you would purchase. "

    One _DAY_ admission or a $30 credit -- PER GAME?

    That's new/worse.

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    #2 1 year ago

    Re-reading it for the 500th time, maybe it's just Pacak failing at english.

    "one day admission for each game that you bring or a $30 credit per game, per day"

    Is that supposed to mean you get one day admission for each day the game is there? If it sells and leaves you're done? It's still not very clear.

    #3 1 year ago

    All I know is that Andrew isn't helping out again this year and that makes me sad.

    #4 1 year ago

    You should get a free day of admission for each day your machine is in the free play area.

    #5 1 year ago
    Quoted from starfighter:

    You should a free day of admission for each day your machine is in the free play area.

    That has been how it has always been for the last 5 years i have been going and bringing a game. I set it Wednesday and break it down on Sunday. but they would give me a game bringer wrist band and I would be good for the whole show everywhere. bummer Andrew isn't running it again. pretty cool dude. I'm still bringing a game this year.

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    #6 1 year ago

    I want $30 just for trying to figure this out.

    #7 1 year ago

    I plan on bringing MikeP a new free Computer Keyboard to the show this year.

    Edit: CoMPtuRe KeYBorD

    #8 1 year ago
    Quoted from epthegeek:

    Re-reading it for the 500th time, maybe it's just Pacak failing at english.
    "one day admission for each game that you bring or a $30 credit per game, per day"
    Is that supposed to mean you get one day admission for each day the game is there? If it sells and leaves you're done? It's still not very clear.

    I don't know exactly what he means, but are you suggesting someone should be able to bring a game, get admission, sell their game on the first day and that game leaves, and they are compensated the same as someone who has a game operating the entire time?

    game per day = admission per day seems fair to me. Not sure how it was done in the past, and I fully understand the history with Mike and the relationship with everyone so I'm not defending that.

    #9 1 year ago

    Don't forget the package deal, bring a bunch of games and Mike tells you that you get fewer wristbands. He was doing that last year.
    Andrew is out, as are several volunteers.

    #10 1 year ago
    Quoted from frolic:

    I don't know exactly what he means, but are you suggesting someone should be able to bring a game, get admission, sell their game on the first day and that game leaves, and they are compensated the same as someone who has a game operating the entire time?
    game per day = admission per day seems fair to me. Not sure how it was done in the past, and I fully understand the history with Mike and the relationship with everyone so I'm not defending that.

    In the past it was always: Bring game, get weekend band -- there was no policing of whether or not things sold. If it's a strict per day deal now, are you going to have to re-verify every day to get that day's band? Not saying that's out of line, just saying it would be a new thing.

    #11 1 year ago

    I suspect this is similar to past years, though Mike will hopefully answer to clarify and confirm. I think it is to help when people buy a weekend pass AND bring a game.

    Andrew

    #12 1 year ago
    Quoted from epthegeek:

    Re-reading it for the 500th time, maybe it's just Pacak failing at english.
    "one day admission for each game that you bring or a $30 credit per game, per day"
    Is that supposed to mean you get one day admission for each day the game is there? If it sells and leaves you're done? It's still not very clear.

    I believe:
    1 game = 1 day admission
    Or
    1 game = $30 credit for any other admission package

    #13 1 year ago
    Quoted from epthegeek:

    Got a Chicago Expo mailing list thing on 9/9 that has this curious bit at the top where the show is asking people to bring games:
    "We will offer a one day admission for each game that you bring or a $30 credit per game, per day against whatever admission package you would purchase. "
    One DAY_ admission or a $30 credit -- PER GAME?
    That's new/worse.

    You think that is bad take a look at this:

    *PLEASE NOTE*
    Vendor hall will not be open during day on Thursday until 6.
    Game hall will not be open during day Thursday until 6 but at 1pm on Friday

    #14 1 year ago
    Quoted from TomGWI:

    Vendor hall will not be open during day on Thursday until 6.
    Game hall will not be open during day Thursday until 6 but at 1pm on Friday

    Thursday is the same as every year.

    LTG : )

    #15 1 year ago

    All I know is there is going to be a whole hell of a lot of but I am going to be in Denver watching my folks dog

    #16 1 year ago
    Quoted from LTG:

    Thursday is the same as every year.
    LTG : )

    I know. It's the wording that is f***ed up

    #17 1 year ago

    Bummer, after several years of organized and well run Free play room, we are going back to the old way! I do hope Mike finds someone to 'run' it as he is usually too busy with setting up the hall, etc.

    Damon

    #18 1 year ago

    Pretty sure it was the same last year?

    I don't know what's hard to understand though, for each day you have a game on the floor, you get 1 day free admission, or $30 credit.

    That is very fair to me. I had a little gripe last year when bringing two games in, they only wanted to credit it as one. So I just registered the second game under a friend's name.

    I believe that was Mikes rules not Andrews.

    #19 1 year ago
    Quoted from damonbeals:

    Bummer, after several years of organized and well run Free play room, we are going back to the old way! I do hope Mike finds someone to 'run' it as he is usually too busy with setting up the hall, etc.
    Damon

    To difficult to deal with pACaK, f' him. Since MGC looks to be moving, how about moving to October and south and putting Mike out of OUR misery.

    #20 1 year ago
    Quoted from Slim64:

    Pretty sure it was the same last year?
    I don't know what's hard to understand though, for each day you have a game on the floor, you get 1 day free admission, or $30 credit.
    That is very fair to me. I had a little gripe last year when bringing two games in, they only wanted to credit it as one. So I just registered the second game under a friend's name.
    I believe that was Mikes rules not Andrews.

    That was Mike's rule in spite of what was his written policy. This led to @$$hole literally accusing the registration volunteers of stealing from him. One volunteer was ready to beat the sh!t it off him for that.

    #21 1 year ago

    I heard there was on offer made to purchase Expo from Mike.......by Stern.

    #22 1 year ago
    Quoted from foureyedcharlie:

    I heard there was on offer made to purchase Expo from Mike.......by Stern.

    I thought mikE and Gary were the same person.

    #23 1 year ago

    I'll go back... once Mike is gone for good...

    #24 1 year ago

    It would be nice if Rob Berk brought his whole collection to the show. He has a dynamic set up.

    #25 1 year ago
    Quoted from Marvin:

    To difficult to deal with pACaK, f' him. Since MGC looks to be moving, how about moving to October and south and putting Mike out of OUR misery.

    That's not our location, sorry.

    In all honesty, Expo is an industry show, mgc is not. If I was to consider running a second show, I would make sure it wasn't the same time as Expo.

    #26 1 year ago

    there is no change THE WORDING IS WRONG ITS THE SAME AS ALWAYS A DAYS ADMISSION FOR EACH DAY GAME IS THERE ARM BAND IF GAME IS THERE ALL WEEK NO CHANGE AT ALL SORRY FOR CONFUSION

    #27 1 year ago

    It's still Expo.

    Go and have a great time.

    LTG : )

    #28 1 year ago
    Quoted from goatdan:

    That's not our location, sorry.
    In all honesty, Expo is an industry show, mgc is not. If I was to consider running a second show, I would make sure it wasn't the same time as Expo.

    I know you wouldn't do that, it's a half joke/wishful thinking. I wish we had competent leadership at expo like you guys. We've brought stuff to MGC before even though it's farther and will likely keep doing so.

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    #29 1 year ago
    Quoted from mikepin:

    there is no change THE WORDING IS WRONG ITS THE SAME AS ALWAYS A DAYS ADMISSION FOR EACH DAY GAME IS THERE ARM BAND IF GAME IS THERE ALL WEEK NO CHANGE AT ALL SORRY FOR CONFUSION

    OK THANKS A LOT FOR THE CLARIFICATION NOW I JUST HAVE TO DECIDE IF I AM GOING TO PICK UP THIS HURRICANE AND HAVE IT READY FOR THE SHOW I DONT KNOW IF I HAVE ENOUGH TIME BUT IF I DO IT WILL BE FOR SALE BUT IT WILL STAY THE ENTIRE TIME I HOPE

    #30 1 year ago

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    It's only proper English grammar.

    #31 1 year ago
    Quoted from Marvin:

    I know you wouldn't do that, it's a half joke/wishful thinking.

    We've had a lot of people push us to do a "half year show" that would be a bit different from the full year show including proposing some different locations, but if we ever end up doing something like that, it would be the same "style" as the show we already run - with the focus on the collector side of the trade show and not the industry.

    Expo fills that niche, which is honestly why I think some people find themselves frustrated by it. It fill an industry need that we never could, even if we could make the financials for a second show halfway work.

    #32 1 year ago

    I too, was confused by the wording, but it's all gooD now

    #33 1 year ago

    I figure I could bring 45 machines, and sponsor 44 of my friends and family.

    You would need all of them, to haul that many machines in, and out of the show.

    #34 1 year ago
    Quoted from scott_freeman:

    I figure I could bring 45 machines, and sponsor 44 of my friends and family.
    You would need all of them, to haul that many machines in, and out of the show.

    You bring 45 games, you should get 45 wrist bands. Doesn't matter what you do with them.

    #35 1 year ago

    If only there was someone that could fix mistakes on the website.

    #36 1 year ago
    Quoted from Bryan_Kelly:

    You bring 45 games, you should get 45 wrist bands. Doesn't matter what you do with them.

    Pacak was not doing that last year, and told the game room volunteers they were stealing from him by giving out too many wristbands (equal number to games brought) to people bringing multiple games.

    #37 1 year ago
    Quoted from Marvin:

    Pacak was not doing that last year, and told the game room volunteers they were stealing from him by giving out too many wristbands (equal number to games brought) to people bringing multiple games.

    Yup. I know.

    #38 1 year ago
    Quoted from icust298:

    If only there was someone that could fix

    ...Pinball EXPO.

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    #39 1 year ago

    I was going to set up a game this year, but not real happy with him talking smack about MGC online

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    compliments it but down plays its offerings and then says it is great. Where I am from this is called a shit sandwhich.

    #40 1 year ago

    So there's no incentive to bring more games than you have people to sponsor them? Why should someone like phoebE bring a trailer full of fantastic games?

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    #41 1 year ago

    I have said before there are special deals in you bring more machines it matters how many and what they are and if for sale or not contact me direct mike 330 5183141 and i in NO WAY put down MGC we have DIFFERENT stuff than they do... More pinball vendors more pinball people and stern TOUR more pinball seminars Banquet with main speaker Bigger tournament ALL shows are different some of yous just HAVE to complain about some thing as in MARVIN AND WAYSNOW ?? why dont you both call me direct and lets discuus rather than post here

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