Years ago, when MMr production was starting, I asked Rick about TZ and he said, too complicated, too many, not on the list. He has mentioned other games in the past, such as TOM, ToTAN, etc. which would be much easier to build. I ended up buying a Bryan Kelly restored TZ that is excellent, and am happy with it. Not sure why I'd get a remake. Colordmd lcd is fantastic on this game, mods are great such as the tv showing clips, 86pixels lcd backboard, pyramid topper, and so forth. The level of complexity is so huge on this game: 5 magnets, ceramic ball sensors, optos all over, complex subway system, raised playfield, gumball mech, widebody extra real estate. If a single part on the CCr topper can shut down the production, imagine what could happen here.

Not a cheap shot, I'm a fan of Doug Duba and CGC in general. Just a numbers game, the number of parts in TZ and complexity exceed the prior games, so more issues can occur.

After I posted that, I was thinking about Monster Bash remake, agree that is a really complex game. I also think the remake is just exceptional. I'd love to see what they would do with a TZ remake, a special theme for me. But since so many TZs are available, and other games like ToTAN super expensive, that would be my preference. An updated ToTAN with more code, a topper, rgb would be amazing.

Interesting to hear from you guys that have taken them apart completely. I guess I'll eat my words on that and look forward to seeing a remake.

ToTAN would be very successful. Shoot, FH would have a ton of demand too.

Excellent summary. I would guess that Rod Serling's daughters are managing the estate now that his wife died a couple of years ago, probably pretty easy to reboot that. So many of us have really nice examples that CGC/PPS can't really count on prior owners. But the number of new collectors has gone through the roof, so the demand will no doubt be there no matter what they make.

That makes a lot more sense to me. Values are really high on ToTAN, and the potential for improving the game is huge: new code, cool topper, rgb, etc. Benoit has already done some great work on ToTAN 2.0 that could potentially be integrated. TZ is a very complete game as it is, and you can get great examples for $10k. Mine plays like a new game. Also, this would be a big departure from the two flipper fan layouts of the first 4 remakes. I'd love to know the source for that 1500 ramps order. Was it planted as a distraction, or the real thing? Guess we will know eventually.

Even CrazyLevi is selling his, and I thought he hated remakes! It would be cool to see what they do with one, I guess a nice topper and rgb, maybe add the third magnet back, bigger LCD of course. Shoot, maybe I'd get one after all.

I figured as much. Doesn't seem your style. But I love Rod Serling, so maybe it is sentimental. My Tron gets a lot more play right now, but it’s new in my collection. The complexity of TZ is fantastic.

I think the modes are so distinctive, that I just enjoy combining them and having different experiences. Serling was a genius, died too young. Seems like the best science fiction is still borrowing from him.

That’s interesting! I recall that his wife was involved in signing off on the game.

When it was released on location, it was a headache for operators to constantly fix and adjust. It has been revered in homes, where we can tweak and dial. I can’t remember the last time I saw a good example in the field. Given that CGC has a ton of games on location, this is another variable to consider,
on top of build complexity and cost. 4-5 magnets, proximity sensors, upper playfield, gumball machine, extensive subways, etc etc. I hope they do it, but it’s a strange choice with all the ones already out there.