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CGC remake wish list. What would you like to see remade?

By arcademojo

5 years ago


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“CGC remake wish list. What would you like to see remade?”

  • Theatre of Magic 148 votes
    7%
  • Cactus Canyon 201 votes
    10%
  • Tales of the Arabian Nights 227 votes
    11%
  • Scared Stiff 91 votes
    5%
  • Cirqus Voltaire 127 votes
    6%
  • Twilight Zone 174 votes
    9%
  • The Addams Family 182 votes
    9%
  • Indiana Jones: The Pinball Adventure 237 votes
    12%
  • Big Bang Bar 229 votes
    11%
  • Funhouse 2.0 128 votes
    6%
  • Creature from the Black Lagoon 97 votes
    5%
  • White Water 155 votes
    8%

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#73 5 years ago
Quoted from britrex1:

I'd be all in for a SSLE with a topper similar to ATM only it be Elvira jumping up and down

They could never get the bounce physics right with that topper... And if they did... Good luck on convincing your wife to let you have it in your house. Just good luck in general...

#75 5 years ago
Quoted from GorillaBiscuits:

Pretty much Indy or bust for me.

Indy would be cool... Would love the updated graphics... But, I really hope its something like Cactus Canyon, then maybe a Tales From the Arabian Nights. As those machines are such cool machines...
But, if Scared Stiff got remade... I'd totally be down to buy one... And I'd totally buy Indy...
So... I'm rubbish at this... As I really want all the remakes they have made so far... Guess I need to get another job to buy them all!!!!

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#81 5 years ago
Quoted from SDTMinSTL:

Cactus. Canyon.
WITH updated fully completed code. I'll keep hoping.

That be my choice for the next one... I don't think continued would be a plausible option... And so I hope they would not only complete the code... And frankly I don't think that much would be needed. But, I'd also like them to add in a proper match animation.
The game is great has a lot of great animations, but the match sequence is just bland. Just numbers.
They can do better.

A funhouse would be great... But, I don't want a lcd or DMD on it. I really cringe when I see the BOP dmd stuff. I think Rudy is the star and doesn't need a dmd. He's enough to have fun with... And if they keep the costs down. Maybe it could be done for 5,500 to 6,500.... Or cheaper... Doubtful though.

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#88 5 years ago
Quoted from jawjaw:

I seriously doubt CGC is going to get into changing game code since they are just emulating old roms. I imagine the license and development process would be very different and difficult if designing new code.
Funhouse needs to happen. I rather see the original alpha numeric displays but you could emulate them with the LCD display. Just keep it looking original. No need to fancy it up. I bet it would sell better than CCr. I love the theme and the pop up targets but CC is kind of bland in the gameplay department. Funhouse is a huge classic and simpler code appeals to a lot of people.

Sadly... I don't think CGC will remake Funhouse. There was a snafu with my MBr, and so I had a big wig in my house setting up the machine. I picked his brain and while I'm smart enough to know that they can't tell me anything real or concrete.
There is one reason why I doubt it will. It is not a DMD. And I doubt they'd want to make the animations for all of it.
Now, I wasn't told directly that there would be no funhouse. The response I got was why did I order the LE. And of course I said, because I wanted the upgraded display and animations. And so... That is why they're might not be a Fun House release or any other non-dmd games.

It stinks... As I do think there is a market for a funhouse. A NIB funhouse for 4-5k... I'd be open for that... But, then again Funhouse you can find for around 4-5k used...
But, who knows. A good company knows when to play coy and put up smoke screens. And waiting and guessing is part of the fun.

#98 5 years ago
Quoted from LTG:

A lot of people would. If made, it just wouldn't be available for that. I'm sure it would be a lot more.
LTG : )

Well, I think it would have to be in that price range. As the price range for an Funhouse is around 4-6k... With most going somewhere in the middle. Its a fun and creepy game. And I totally plan on having one someday. I plan on getting most of Pat's pins. I think you could make the argument that he might be the best designer ever... Him and Ritchie tied at number 1 with the rest duking it out for 3rd best.

And honestly. I don't think it needs an DMD/LCD. It works great as is. And I'm not a fan of remakes that overstep themselves. I think its one thing to enhance the original animations, and another thing to add a display when there was never one there and never planned for it. But, that is my opinion.
But, I also think there might be a market for reasonably priced remakes.
The classic edition of monster bash is 6k I believe. Very reasonably priced. Stern Pro's are around that price point as well.
And I think if Stern was smart they might explore the remake market as well. And I don't mean the vaults. I mean digging deep into their classics...

But, who knows. I also think if Williams was smart they'd release an official virtual pinball cab. One that has their games officially licensed and running their own unique software and front end. Visual Pinball has a lot of limitations, and I think if you combine the best elements from VPX and Pinball Arcade and the current company that owns the rights to Williams games, you would have a fun unique experience. One not as good as a real pinball machine. But easier to maintain, and one that you could play possibly hundreds of games on. Again... An official Virtual Cab. I think the current state of them... They're good... But, not great... Lots of room for improvement.
And I'm sorry that I went really out there in this post... But, yeah... I'd love CGC to get into remaking non-dmd games... But, whatever they do. They'll make it well and I plan on supporting them.

#105 5 years ago
Quoted from whthrs166:

The rumor I got yesterday is CGC has a team working on CCr. New code and completed game. (Originally I heard that the CCr will have original code and an enhanced code). I also heard that the progress is going somewhat slow. I guess we will see....

That to me sounds great. Cactus Canyon would be a great game to have for a home. Family friendly, but a good theme and exciting. Nice callouts, nice animations. I would want as I stated before a real matching animation and maybe a few others that were left out.
And I don't think they'd have to go crazy on completing the code. Just a few things added.

That would be cool in my book. One thing I wonder if they might try is the translucent shootout drop targets. They were originally meant to be that way so light could be shined through them. But, they never could find a material that would last and not break.

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#107 5 years ago
Quoted from Rdoyle1978:

It’s a fairly thin game though - some enhancements would help it last quite a bit longer at home ...

I agree its a shallow game... I never played a real one in person. I have it on pinball arcade on my ps4.
And it didn't take long for me to complete the wizard modes for the game.
Still really fun and its a looker, with a fun theme and some killer toys.

If they are enhancing the code, then who knows they could add a few more modes and maybe even another wizard mode. A super grand wizard mode. But, I really don't like complex code to be honest.
Games like Star Wars(Sterns) are just off putting for me... Even Batman 66, which I like(I like playing Stern's SW too, just hate the code) is a bit confusing. It could take you hours and hundreds of dollars to understand the code on location. I like a game where its easy to figure out the code, but difficult to master.
And for that I really wouldn't want them to add too much to Cactus Canyon... If it turns out they are making it.

I really think there is a joy to the simple code. And lets be honest its not like its a Space Shuttle or Sorcerer, where you just rinse and repeat your strategy. Mind you I really enjoy both those games and hope to own the latter one day. As I think there is an appeal to shallow game code too.

#114 5 years ago
Quoted from whthrs166:

That's Interesting. I haven't heard that before. It's things like that people look to CGC to do. Make the game better than the original. Not just big display and sound and some graphics. CC is one (because of being an unfinished game) where they can do all kinds cool stuff to make it stand apart from the original and the Continued Version. If they are indeed starting over on a new code, (which I think they are) it gives them the opportunity to create a much better game than the original and one that could rival the Continued version (just not in the same way). The question is, do they have it in them to do it?

Yeah, there is a transcribed speech/lecture/q&a from the design team floating around these forums where the creators talked about making the game. They had wanted translucent drops for the quick draw/shootout targets. But, they never could find a material that would stand up to the beatings of a pinball game.
They also talked about why no video mode.
And quite frankly I thought their reason was a bit silly. They claim for operators you need to make a game not exceed certain ball times. So if they added a video mode they'd have to make the game harder to ensure the ball time remains the same.

And I think of video mode or a multiball or anything that can extend the length of my game as a reward for achieving it. Not taking money out of an operators pocket. But, enriching and rewarding my playthrough. But, I don't think the game needs a video mode. Works great without one. And for every good video mode out there, there are many, many more stinker modes.

They also talked about why the cyborg mode was left out... They just ran out of time basically. So that's probably what will be added back in... If anything... And if it gets remade...

And to ccbiggsoo7... Yes, I have played an Arabian Nights in person. Only one time though and for about 4-6 games at most.
I have it on pinball arcade on the PS4 and I really enjoy playing it. Yes, its simple and I've beaten the game many times. Or completed the modes and wizard modes many times.
But, I love the look of the game. Love the call outs, as I there just aren't enough female callout pinball machines. Also, I like the fact that it tells a story. Easy... Maybe... But, why does a pin have to be hard. Sprinkle hard and easy ones in your collection and that way you can have the best of both worlds. I really love the animations. . Its like a Ray Harryhausen pin come to life. And don't think that he wasn't an influence on that game. He totally was. From cyclopes to skeletons, and more... In fact I think Harryhausen has a few pins that were influenced by him. Of course Sinbad as its based on one of his movies.
But, also I think the Backglass to 4 million bc is based on one of his stop motion dino fights... Could be mistaken... Looks a lot like a scene from one of his movies. And I hope to own those two games one day too... When I move into my new house.

#116 5 years ago
Quoted from LTG:

Have to be, and able to do it for that. Is sadly far apart.
Do something about the alphanumeric to LCD. Different size playfield. Lots of mechs.
Don't get me wrong. I'd like to see a new one. I just don't think it could even be done for their current pricing.
LTG : )

Yeah, I don't think a remake of it will happen. Too costly to produce for them. And also look at where the demand is for a funhouse.
I think an Addam's Family is more likely to happen. I think they want to target the pins that sell for 6-9k regularly. Which is fine.

#121 5 years ago
Quoted from arcademojo:

CPR announced new IJ backglass. Plus their TZ and TAF backglasses and TAF playfield.
Seems like all the talk about impossible license issues from the past should be put to rest.
If they can get licenses for playfields and backglasses they can get licenses to remake the game.
TAF was the number one selling game and I'm sure it would be their number one selling remake also.

I don't know if that logic holds fully... Only because most people are buying games that are really overpriced in the collectors market and will never have a chance to play.
It's true Addam's Family is a pricey game. I think 5.5-8.5k is the range I notice it being tossed around at. Which certainly fits the value range for CGC remake criteria.
But, Attack from Mars, MM, and Monster Bash all sold around 3-5k sales... Not bad selling games. As anything around 4k was a good run. And around the 3-4k mark the designers would start getting bonuses for every machine sold.
The reason why I bring up sales is, less sales, less machine around to be sold and played. Hence why I think these games are selling really good. For some strange reason they weren't big hits in the 90s while other pins were, but they were always well regarded and liked... Popularity can be a fickle thing.
So, while I know I would be open to a new CGC remake of Addam's family and most people would... I'm not certain it would be their best seller. I think too many originals are still out there. It would be a good seller, and I think of course they'd sell out of their LE's.

Personally... I really hope CGC doesn't start making original games. I hope they continue with the remakes... As I think there is less risk involved, and I know there are still so many quality games for them to put out. and if they put out one a year or even two a year... That means they have enough pins for the next 10-15 years... Provided this hobby doesn't crater... But, I don't think its going anywhere. I think it survived the salad days, and will survive them again.

#125 5 years ago
Quoted from arcademojo:

Not exactly sure what your first statement is saying? You might not have worded that right.
But here is one thing to consider. The big 3 vs TAF. If look at what percent of the big 3 owners that, A: own the game but sold it to buy the remake because they wanted the upgraded features. B: people that owned the game before but didn't want to spend the cash on high priced used ones so bought the remakes. Now up that by the amount of previous and current TAF owners. Myself included. (current owner of an above average players TAF with really nice Diamond coated playfield). I would be first in line for a TAF with new display and other upgraded features. This is just a small portion of sales but will make up larger numbers in the end. I agree it will lose sales from the collectors that are just buying rare games though. Then on the flip side are the vast majority of newer buyers that would rather just pick up the phone and have a NIB delivered to their door. I personally feel these are the people that are targeted with the remakes. And then you have to look at modern operators. Many of our local ops are selling off all there older games and just buying every new game that comes out. Including MMR, AFMR and MBR. taf has always been a top earner so I'm sure many ops will jump on the chance to have a new one again.

My main point is there are many more Addam's around then there are MB, MM, AFM around. You could combine their production runs and they still would be like 8,000 units less...
So I think that might put a little damper on the amount of people who want a remake.
It's a great game. No doubt about that. And I agree a remake would be most welcome. I don't know if the animations of addams family really would matter to be redone or not. Sure they'd look better. But, that game had ho-hum animations at best. Great sound and callouts.

Now the question to be had... Would all the units get the topper? Or would they limit the topper to just LE? Or would they make a general topper and then make a really cool tweak for the LE???
Anyway... Yes, it would be cool for them to remake Addam's... But, I would prefer some of the rarer games to be remade first, and an Adam's to be more down the road... And I rather an Indy remade than Addam's... But, don't get me wrong. I totally want an Addam's and to be able to get a NIB one, would be amazing.

#127 5 years ago
Quoted from arcademojo:

952 votes in. Current running tally of top 5.
CC :110 votes
BBB :109
IJ :99
TOTAN :98
TAF :97
Still need more votes to break 1000.

I am from the chicago area... So I could always vote more than once. It is the Chicago way...

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